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The problem that I see today is that companies, as you put it, couldn’t give a crap about their customers. All they care about is money, as you put it. This is already changing though. People are pissed of when they buy a product and get crap in return (often times getting a product that doesn’t even work). Simply put, you can’t continually keep screwing your customers for their money and expect to get away with it.

That is what I meant by putting your customers first. I’m saying that instead of companies not caring about their customers at all. They need to find a balance where they can meet the basic needs of their customers, so that those customers will continue to deal with that company. I mean if you don’t give a crap about your customer, don’t expect your customer give a crap about you. And as for living on a desert island, I would say that any company that is still not caring about their customers (i.e. meeting their basic needs), even in the slightest, are going to be out of business and on that desert island. Hell, I think the dot com bomb was a perfect example of that.

And finally if you find my statement too far out there, just do some searches on the web related to corporations, morality, ethics, and responsibilities. This issue isn’t new. It’s been around for years in magazines, books, and the Web, slowing growing more with each passing year. People are demanding more and more from the companies they deal with. If they don’t find it with one company they will just go some where else. The almightly dollar has spoken. Companies can deal with it or else go the way of the dinosaur. :)

Another suggestion would be b2evolution, which is the inofficial, direct successor of b2/cafelog, apparently offering all the stuff WP is able plus a bit more.

But if you also got great support with the ‘complete and total commercialization’ of MT, why dont stick with it? Good support is something _I_ would spend money for, even if I was a newbie to blogging (which Im not). You ought to see it from both sides…

cu, w0lf.

I understand the need to make money. I actually considered the fact that they spent so much time/money on MT for free to be exceedingly ridiculous for a business. I knew this had to change, or the company itself would fold. And, as I said, I would be perfectly willing to pay for a reasonably priced personal licensed software — I have done so before, and do not doubt I shall continue to do so again.

It makes perfectly good sense to me to have a limited free version that will entice you to purchase an upgrade. This is standard business for virtually every software company that I know of.

But I find the limitations of the purchased software to be extremely offensive. I have an analogy to this situation: Say you purchased a SUV from, hmm, Honda. You would expect unlimited use of the car, despite the limitations of said car (it cannot swim through water or fly to the moon). You would not expect for Honda to say you can only drive the car with one passengers on a limit of three roads. However, you would expect to pay for services and tune ups on your car.

And yet MT has this all messed up. You pay for the software, yet are limited in how you use it. You do not pay for the potentionally unnecessary services, as it is included in the price. What were they thinking?

And with the backpedaling and damage control that they have had to do and with numerous issues still yet need to resolve, I get the sense that Six Apart honestly did not know their audience expectations and what is the true use of their software. And though it has been said that they are trying to escape their Ma & Pa image, I cannot help but feel that they are not managing to proceed professionally as one would expect from a business. The whole issue is just really bad business for SixApart and great business for their competitors.

I would like to go ahead and point to three other sources that better outline and expand on what I’ve said. Burningbird, MT Thread 1, MT Thread 2. Of course there is a great deal more available…

I’m currently looking into my other options, because 2.661 is no longer available for download and I do not have a hardcopy to install from. They, in what I consider bad form, no longer provide previous versions available to download on their site. I am currently researching WordPress and ExpressionEngine to see if they address my needs.

This is disheartening for somebody that has used and advocated MovableType for almost 2 years.

Honestly? I really do not mind paying for MT. Point of fact, I had been considering donating several dollars or even purchasing the commercial version of 2.x but was waiting in anticipation for 3.0 before I proceeded.

What angers me? The limitations on the number of authors and weblogs, even if you decided to purchase the software. I not only maintain a multitude of weblogs, I also create a multitude of weblogs for my friends and family — and that is just as a personal user. I use MT for fun, not profit. Even the ridiculous $600 Commerical version wouldn’t fit my needs.

You want me to pay for my software? Hey, fine. I’ll do it. I’ve done it plenty of times before. But I’ll demand full featured software first.

It’s definitely time I started looking into other options now. I’ve been hearing good things about Wordpress…

MT3.0D runs here. Storm at 6A. Opinions elsewhere and many more.

MT3.0D runs here. Storm at 6A. Opinions elsewhere and many more.

As for MT, I agree, very bad form re: the beta upgrade bit, they should at the very least provide a script that will allow the MT users to downgrade.

Personally I don’t understand what the furor is all about. “Ben and Mena” ceased the moment that Typepad was launched and its bizarre to say the least that so many believe that they were going to continue in that vein, especially since creating Six Apart the Company and launching Typepad.

Six Apart took everyone by surprise today and release Movable Type 3.0, the long awaited upgrade for it’s popular Content Management System, or blog software to the majority of it’s users. The excitement of the release was somewhat overshad…

This I agree is bad form. At Adobe, we give a free copy of the release version to all beta testers for their work and effort, as does most every software company I have ever worked for does. I have no idea why 6A did not do this, if that is indeed true.

As for being upset? I’m not upset. I’m a capitalist. 8^)

A company’s purpose is to make money. You want to bitch because the free product is no longer free (or in this case, the free version is more limited), fine, go for it… but the company is not in the wrong for trying to monetize. Sure, it sucks, and it probably won’t go nearly as well as they expect it to, and they’ll lose most of the open source types (who have so suddenly been reminded that MT isn’t free, speech or beer) to other projects like WordPress… but they’ll make some money, maybe enough to pay back whatever debts they’ve run up in doing MT and even have some left over, so bully for them. And some additional talent will opt to help extend WordPress et al, so bully for them. And you can still choose to stay with MT2, it’s been working fine for people all over the place for a long time, or move to an open source system, or shell out some bucks for the unrestricted MT 3 or expressionEngine or whatever. You’re perfectly free to do any of those things… so bully for us all.

Ugh. I think I’ve been infected by Teddy Roosevelt’s ghost.

So I’ve spent the better part of yesterday and this morning reading email and response to my earlier O’Reilly post. there are some good counterpoints in addition to some real rubbish. I recap and offer some potential balance.

So I’ve spent the better part of yesterday and this morning reading email and response to my earlier O’Reilly post. there are some good counterpoints in addition to some real rubbish. I recap and offer some potential balance.

Some of you have been saying that companies are only in it for the money and I think once they get to a certain size that it becomes true. However, I do think that SixApart is still small enough that they can not afford to start ignoring their community. At any rate they need to learn how to communicate more effectively, especially if they are going to have a blog that helps to make their company more transparent to everyone.

Every company in existence (aside from those that release Open Source software) survive on the greenback. Otherwise how would they pay their staff to further the development of the product.

However, being a student, husband and recent father I simply cannot afford (for the time being) the personal license. I refuse to rant about the subject because, truth be told, version 2.65+ is still available for use (despite it not being fully supported).

Prior to these pricing plans, Six Apart released MT at a meger $20.00 (later changed to $50.00) per installation for personal use. Any extra money on top of this was through donations.

Due to MT’s success Six Apart was able to hire more staff members and guess what; they need the funds to pay these people. While I’m not too pleased with the pricing per say I can understand their need to unvail such a plan.

The continuation of success is through progress. Progress according to a company is only fueled via money, teamwork and support. Generating money is the driving factor for companies unless its based solely on volunteer work, which would be Open Source in this case.

Even then, as Jason Santa Maria reiterates;

If they [Open Source software] become at all successful, they will need to move to a business plan. Such is the nature of the free product model. In order to develop things further and maintain your customers you will need to expand your product, and inevitably, your operation.

Movable Type, the software that runs this and thousands of other blogs, is no longer going to be free. (See a sample of the discussion here and here, via Scripting News.) See also the posts linked via trackback to the announcement of these changes. Man…