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	<title>Comments on: NASA: DOS Glitch Nearly Killed Mars Rover</title>
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		<title>By: Charles Childers</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/08/nasa_dos_glitch_nearly_killed_mars_rover/comment-page-1/#comment-3559</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Childers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem was with the flash memory drive and DOS file system. The OS that powers the rovers is VxWorks by WindRiver Technologies. Take a look at http://www.windriver.com/device_designs/aerospace_and_defense/nasa_jpl_mars_rovers.html for more details on VxWorks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem was with the flash memory drive and DOS file system. The OS that powers the rovers is VxWorks by WindRiver Technologies. Take a look at <a href="http://www.windriver.com/device_designs/aerospace_and_defense/nasa_jpl_mars_rovers.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.windriver.com/device_designs/aerospace_and_defense/nasa_jpl_mars_rovers.html</a> for more details on VxWorks.</p>
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		<title>By: tonyMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonyMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, they could be using CP/M, I guess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, they could be using CP/M, I guess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tonyMac</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/08/nasa_dos_glitch_nearly_killed_mars_rover/comment-page-1/#comment-3557</link>
		<dc:creator>tonyMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...
  To tell you the truth, on a control level, I would be using a minimal OS, one with as little junk to go wrong as possible.  The only OS that fits that bill is DOS, really, I&#039;ve had a lot of issues with *nix OS&#039;s and hardware, I do a lot with robotics, and DOS, a c ompiler, and a good assembler are my tools.  Anything more complex just gets in the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;<br />
  To tell you the truth, on a control level, I would be using a minimal OS, one with as little junk to go wrong as possible.  The only OS that fits that bill is DOS, really, I&#8217;ve had a lot of issues with *nix OS&#8217;s and hardware, I do a lot with robotics, and DOS, a c ompiler, and a good assembler are my tools.  Anything more complex just gets in the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought NASA used Windows XP...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought NASA used Windows XP&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at least they stopped using punch cards... it was a real pain having to go out into deep space to clean up jams.

It&#039;s not like theres anything wrong with using dos. It&#039;s tiny,  it&#039;s easy to write software for (or so I&#039;m told...), and it&#039;s solid. Less to break. And they could fix it over something like a 1 byte per minute connection, all the way from here. Imagine loading linux patches over that. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at least they stopped using punch cards&#8230; it was a real pain having to go out into deep space to clean up jams.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like theres anything wrong with using dos. It&#8217;s tiny,  it&#8217;s easy to write software for (or so I&#8217;m told&#8230;), and it&#8217;s solid. Less to break. And they could fix it over something like a 1 byte per minute connection, all the way from here. Imagine loading linux patches over that. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read somewhere that NASA has very strict guidelines for what sort of software goes up, including a rule that specifies that the software should have been available for 5 years on Earth.

Don&#039;t know how true this is. I had heard about this in relation to a Hubble upgrade few years back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read somewhere that NASA has very strict guidelines for what sort of software goes up, including a rule that specifies that the software should have been available for 5 years on Earth.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know how true this is. I had heard about this in relation to a Hubble upgrade few years back.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I figured it had something to do with that, but then I would also think that there would be some intense testing on other offerings (*cough*linux*cough*) so that they could move ahead.

Seems NASA took a more of a not broke, don&#039;t fix mentaility instead of a can this be improved mentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I figured it had something to do with that, but then I would also think that there would be some intense testing on other offerings (*cough*linux*cough*) so that they could move ahead.</p>
<p>Seems NASA took a more of a not broke, don&#8217;t fix mentaility instead of a can this be improved mentality.</p>
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		<title>By: Geof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a NASA contractor, FWIW.  The reason that highly outmoded hardware and software is used by NASA is because it is relatively reliable at some level.  It&#039;s friggin&#039; hard to send patches to these spacecraft, and they&#039;re remote and expensive, so you do with the most battle-tested stuff you can do the job with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a NASA contractor, FWIW.  The reason that highly outmoded hardware and software is used by NASA is because it is relatively reliable at some level.  It&#8217;s friggin&#8217; hard to send patches to these spacecraft, and they&#8217;re remote and expensive, so you do with the most battle-tested stuff you can do the job with.</p>
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