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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19888</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that wouldn&#039;t affect the files included in the page, which is the issue with CSS based redesigns when you don&#039;t change the name of the CSS file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that wouldn&#8217;t affect the files included in the page, which is the issue with CSS based redesigns when you don&#8217;t change the name of the CSS file.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19887</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as far as refreshing half a dozen times, any address with a query string breaks cache

so... http://forevergeek.com/forever_geek/fg_late_night_redesign.php?noPlaceLike=localhost

would bust every item in cache first time around...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as far as refreshing half a dozen times, any address with a query string breaks cache</p>
<p>so&#8230; <a href="http://forevergeek.com/forever_geek/fg_late_night_redesign.php?noPlaceLike=localhost" rel="nofollow">http://forevergeek.com/forever_geek/fg_late_night_redesign.php?noPlaceLike=localhost</a></p>
<p>would bust every item in cache first time around&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19886</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2004 07:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The search box doesn&#039;t display at all in IE. Might want to fix that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The search box doesn&#8217;t display at all in IE. Might want to fix that.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19885</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2004 05:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm, how did I kill it? Works for me.</description>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19884</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you killed the search box : (</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Behrend</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19883</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Behrend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing I just realized, this site and John Gruber&#039;s may be literally the only 2 weblogs that I read that doesn&#039;t have some sort shade of white as the main content area&#039;s bg. Most use actual white, while some like Zeldman just a really light shade of their basic color.

It&#039;s a nice change of pace and overall I like the design, but I really think for a content/text-heavy site a light background with dark text is easier to read. Maybe it&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I just realized, this site and John Gruber&#8217;s may be literally the only 2 weblogs that I read that doesn&#8217;t have some sort shade of white as the main content area&#8217;s bg. Most use actual white, while some like Zeldman just a really light shade of their basic color.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a nice change of pace and overall I like the design, but I really think for a content/text-heavy site a light background with dark text is easier to read. Maybe it&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19882</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any suggestions on adding character? I have ideas, but my ears are always open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any suggestions on adding character? I have ideas, but my ears are always open.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Marble</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19881</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Marble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it. Never really did like the last design much, but it did have character as some people have mentioned.

So, I&#039;ld probly throw in some more detail. Give this design a little more character. Throw in some obscurities that only us geeks would probly notice.

I love the color tone. It feels nice. But maybe try using some other colors to accentuate things a little bit.

But mainly, I think it&#039;s just missing a little character. Well done though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it. Never really did like the last design much, but it did have character as some people have mentioned.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;ld probly throw in some more detail. Give this design a little more character. Throw in some obscurities that only us geeks would probly notice.</p>
<p>I love the color tone. It feels nice. But maybe try using some other colors to accentuate things a little bit.</p>
<p>But mainly, I think it&#8217;s just missing a little character. Well done though.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually did start with a new stylesheet, but at 2am I got lazy. Sorry about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually did start with a new stylesheet, but at 2am I got lazy. Sorry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next time you redesign, paul... use a new CSS file name... it&#039;ll stop us poor souls in corporate environments from having to refresh the page a half dozen times to convince the proxy server to give up its old copy. :-)
Ditto for any logo changes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next time you redesign, paul&#8230; use a new CSS file name&#8230; it&#8217;ll stop us poor souls in corporate environments from having to refresh the page a half dozen times to convince the proxy server to give up its old copy. :-)<br />
Ditto for any logo changes</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that it&#039;s more open as well as cleaner.  It&#039;s still pretty dark, but definitely better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that it&#8217;s more open as well as cleaner.  It&#8217;s still pretty dark, but definitely better.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19877</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yes there are some more graphical changes (eg. icons and such) coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes there are some more graphical changes (eg. icons and such) coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19876</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see the mixed reactions to this one, means you peeps care about the site. Really I was being greedy and needed something that was easier to read for myself :-)

I know it has less of the crazy, cluttered geek appeal, but I think it works better on so many other levels than the previous design. Oh well, that&#039;s what you get for 5 hours of late night work with some beers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see the mixed reactions to this one, means you peeps care about the site. Really I was being greedy and needed something that was easier to read for myself :-)</p>
<p>I know it has less of the crazy, cluttered geek appeal, but I think it works better on so many other levels than the previous design. Oh well, that&#8217;s what you get for 5 hours of late night work with some beers.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19875</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FREEDOM!!!

That last design was too cramped for my tastes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FREEDOM!!!</p>
<p>That last design was too cramped for my tastes.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Avery</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19874</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Avery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the new design.  Much easier to read and navigate.  Plus is just very attractive.  Also I can open it up at work now without feeling like people looking over my shoulder think I&#039;m looking at a video-game website.  Hurray!  Great job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the new design.  Much easier to read and navigate.  Plus is just very attractive.  Also I can open it up at work now without feeling like people looking over my shoulder think I&#8217;m looking at a video-game website.  Hurray!  Great job!</p>
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		<title>By: Lea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks sweet. Reminds me a bit of Daring Fireball, which is nice. I like how much cleaner it looks.

The only thing I&#039;m kind of having a problem with is how large the FG logo is. It&#039;s a tad distracting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks sweet. Reminds me a bit of Daring Fireball, which is nice. I like how much cleaner it looks.</p>
<p>The only thing I&#8217;m kind of having a problem with is how large the FG logo is. It&#8217;s a tad distracting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Croft</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19872</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Croft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul-

I think this one trumps the last one by a good margin. Nice work!</description>
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<p>I think this one trumps the last one by a good margin. Nice work!</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19871</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion the old design was better. I do not visit the site very often nor am I a subscriber to the feed, but the old design just looked more like &quot;geek&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion the old design was better. I do not visit the site very often nor am I a subscriber to the feed, but the old design just looked more like &#8220;geek&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Iolaire McFadden</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19870</link>
		<dc:creator>Iolaire McFadden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, this is much easier to read.  Though I can not picture the design before last in my mind, but I feel like it is similar as in being plain and less distracting in reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, this is much easier to read.  Though I can not picture the design before last in my mind, but I feel like it is similar as in being plain and less distracting in reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Flint</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19869</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Flint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job Scrivs. I have found an odd thing happening with the menu on Safari 1.2.3 on OSX 10.3.5.

When I mouseover store, and the dropdown comes out, after i mouseout of it, the right hand side (about 15-20px) is still showing until i either scroll down and back up, or resize the window.

Just an FYI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job Scrivs. I have found an odd thing happening with the menu on Safari 1.2.3 on OSX 10.3.5.</p>
<p>When I mouseover store, and the dropdown comes out, after i mouseout of it, the right hand side (about 15-20px) is still showing until i either scroll down and back up, or resize the window.</p>
<p>Just an FYI</p>
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		<title>By: Cheah Chu Yeow</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19868</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheah Chu Yeow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice job Paul, especially the look of the active tab. This makes me so glad I blog here as well ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job Paul, especially the look of the active tab. This makes me so glad I blog here as well ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Barbutti</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19867</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbutti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just like Derek and David said, it&#039;s not as unique as the old one but it&#039;s pretty and I like it. Don&#039;t know which one I prefer though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just like Derek and David said, it&#8217;s not as unique as the old one but it&#8217;s pretty and I like it. Don&#8217;t know which one I prefer though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19866</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found your site today via blogcatalog and I&#039;ll def be back for more. !! Keep up the good work</description>
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		<title>By: David Hund</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2004/09/fg_late_night_redesign/#comment-19865</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet, but standard... :-(

I like this design better, from a &#039;user perspective&#039;. I like this design less, from a &#039;design perspective&#039;.

It is very &#039;you&#039;, but (imho) a little bit too much: &quot;Daring Fireball_Whitespace++&quot;

Not dorky enough to be nerdy.

But again: reads fine, navigates fine. As usual :-)

I suppose the new advertising (no Google_ads, the &#039;sponsored boxes&#039;) is going to be in here somewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet, but standard&#8230; :-(</p>
<p>I like this design better, from a &#8216;user perspective&#8217;. I like this design less, from a &#8216;design perspective&#8217;.</p>
<p>It is very &#8216;you&#8217;, but (imho) a little bit too much: &#8220;Daring Fireball_Whitespace++&#8221;</p>
<p>Not dorky enough to be nerdy.</p>
<p>But again: reads fine, navigates fine. As usual :-)</p>
<p>I suppose the new advertising (no Google_ads, the &#8216;sponsored boxes&#8217;) is going to be in here somewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the old one a whole lot better. :( It had much more personality and was a lot more unique.</description>
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