No, this isn’t another of those "my console is better than yours" bashes.
This is about the constant bashing upon the two communities: the
Nintendo fans against the PSP ones. Usually when new consoles are
released over a short period of time there are always some bashings on
the internet over which is better but it has never taken this much
attention as it has now.
The way I see it, the DS community is afraid because for the first
time a company with enough power has decided to battle them on their
home ground with a technically superior product in almost every way.
Nintendo clings closely to idea that their games are fun to play and
imaginative. Sony just has a superior product… that can play better
games and has media and internet capabilities.
From a technical stand, the PSP has many more ways of upgrading itself
with the memory sticks, so in the future the PSP can still evolve
more. A browser, e-mail, and e-book program has already been
announced. And with the UMD becoming a new media, it will only be a
matter of time before recorders and blank units start selling, and
with them pirated games.
Let’s face it; one of the main reasons why Playstation and Playstation
2 are so popular was due to the easiness of running pirated games on
them. When the UMD reaches it’s full potential it could very well be
the turning point for the portable console takeover.
I for one am buying the PSP. Nintendo disappointed me greatly with the
Nintendo 64 and Gameboy Advance. What they did was basically milk out
their classics with add-ons or 3D versions of them. The N64 was an
awesome console to have at a party or afternoon with some friends,
providing the best multiplayer action. But with multiplayer games
becoming less and less popular (we all hate split screen games, right?) and
classic arcade titles like Streets of Rage hardly ever appear. But the
Playstation had a much wider range of choices. I could have a great
platformer if I wanted to and also choose from a wide array of
racing games. The N64 had some great games by Nintendo and Rare. And most of the others were great… rubbish. And it was rare to see a game going over the 8 points mark on gamespot besides the ones made by those two companies.
I’m not trying to convince anyone to join either side (sure I might sound like I’m contradicting myself, but it isn’t the point). From the
Nintendo DS you can expect a lot of juvenile titles and remakes of
Nintendo 64 titles. From the PSP you can expect similar some remakes also but also a
wider and more mature range of titles to choose from if the companies
that made the PS1 great decide to milk out some old titles. Whichever one you decide
upon, great for you! But don’t make the internet your personal
battleground.
There, I just made the first internet article about the two consoles, I talked about my favorite and I didn’t need to bash any of them or anyone.
I for one am going to sit on the fence on this one.
I am not going to purchase either until i have had a weeks trial on each.
I dont think reviews and features can swing anyones decision on this,
but saying that i will mostly go with the psp because it has more titles that are suiting to older gamers.
Dont get me wrong the little italian plumber of the ages has always been fun, but i want a game that has a little more realism and less cartoons.
I own a DS, and have a friend who owns a PSP. Having played both I came to a fairly straightforward conclusion. The DS is the better of the two of a few of your friends own it. Multiplayer wireless play is awesome.
If youre after something which will do more than play games, or something that looks cooler than an iPod to pull out of your pocket – go for the PSP. The screen is awesome, and with a decent sized memory stick, you can fill it up with your favourite TV shows or films or music.
I’ll have both eventually, as I dont see that they truly compete in the same market.
I’ve never really been a “new” nintendo fan. I had an original Gameboy and loved it (hell, I’ve even got an emulator for my mobile phone!). My first jump into consoles was the PS2 and I’ve been a fan ever since.
Just out of looks, I’d go for the PSP 10/10 times. The DS looks like thost £5 games with dual screens for the early 90s featuring Donkey Kong. The whole design looks bulky and old.
The PSP has so many cool features, though I’m not too sure on their UMD format at the moment. The price for the upcoming movie releases are extortionate. But, it looks stylish, it has a lot of good games on launch day & decent programs in development.
When I have the money to afford one, I can see myself using it to browse the internet on a reasonably sized screen while on the train or bus.
I say all this and haven’t even tried the DS. But I have to say, after seeing some promotional video of some of the games I was impressed. They’re well thoughtout, imaginative and look fun to play. It’s certainly a new concept.
In the end I don’t really see Nintendo being around much longer…
It’s going to be very interesting indeed.
The DS and the PSP as gaming machines are fairly evenly matched. The PSP has worlds better graphics yes (and that sexy sexy screen, but I’m worried about scratches just like my Sega Nomad), but otherwise there is little difference. They both have internet capabilities (DS online was just announced), they both have about the same button configuration (except PSP analog stick, but I hear it is not that great). The DS could access the internet or e-mail with an add on browser but who really wants that anyway? I hope the UMD thing really bites SONY in the ass myself, the prices are too high, and I just don’t see people re-buying thier favorite movies on UMD so they can watch them on the PSP. DS costs less, the games cost less and the internet gaming will be free. PSP is a real jack of all trades, but I have an ipod and don’t want to watch movies on that small on a device (let alone the problem of rebuying them). I think the piracy issue is also bunk. DS and PSP will both be pirated and DS can play gameboy games natively as well as emulate old ninendo and hopefully SNES (not that the PSP does not have the capabilities to do this as well, but blank UMD discs seem to be farther off). In the end of course it comes down to the games, and hopefully there will be a lot of great games for both. I am looking foreward to mario kart online, liminares (Rez and Space Channel 5 were great!), wario ware, etc… DS is going to have a tough time because it relies more on a gimick of sorts. Nintendo needs to prove that the touch screen is a real gameplay device, SONY just has to have some really kick ass games (GTA will definitely help). Good luck to both, I still cant make up my mind…
It just occured to me. Maybe someone could make emulator for old games (such as SNES, NES, Gameboy etc) which could be played off the Sony Memory Stick and therefore not require the UMD. Now there’s an idea. Someone get to it please so it’s available when I can afford one!
trovster,
For that to be possible, Sony would have to allow running unsigned code from the memory stick. I can see where they would be hesitant to do this to combat piracy, but we can keep our fingers crossed.
In the meantime, I’ll keep counting down the days until the PSP release.
I own a Sony PSP and I thoroughly enjoy it. There has been nothing better released to date. And with the PSP, there is endless room for expansion. That’s all. :)
Fair enough reply.
Unfortunately, I don’t think he cursed.
“Crap” is not generally considered swearing.
Kindly reinstate Nick’s post.
Couldn’t you have edited my post? Seems a bit extreme to just outright delete it. I feel censored for something I don’t even think IS a cuss word.
My problem with your post is you taking some high and mighty stance of being above the bickering, and all you did was echo that exact same bickering. Your use of the word ‘juvinile’ in key places drives that home. I do not disagree about the PSP being great, but everything is not sunshine and lollypops in the PSP camp either.
You don’t even address the point you’re trying to make in the first paragraph. It’s about the communities, but you go off about the hardware??? All you’ve done is shown you’re just as bad as they are in following a point.
I guess that’s me being “against your word”, whatever that means.
Haha I have to agree with Nick on this one. This is just the same as all of the other flame threads on message boards across the internet, except you didn’t use leetspeak and say “th3 PSP 0wnz j00!”.
You make broad, sweeping statements like the PSP is a superior product, and that you can expect sub-par juvenile remakes for the Nintendo DS.
Do you somehow have inside information regarding the entire product line-up for the DS and PSP for the next 5 years or so?
And the PSP has just as many if not more remakes/sequels/ports. Just look at the launch titles. A few remakes/ports/sequels… Spider Man 2, Ridge Racer, Metal Gear, Tony Hawk, Wipeout, Need for Speed, Tiger Woods… and on and on.
Both of these handhelds are going to have a lot of remakes and ports because they have caught up to past consoles in terms of power. So instead of having to make all new games, they’re just porting old ones from the previous consoles that were about the same power as the new handhelds. This is going to happen on both systems. A lot.
And I won’t even get started on the “juvenile” comments.
Writing an opinion piece is good and all, but as Nick said, don’t act like you are not doing the same thing that all the fanboys do. Sure it’s your opinion, but all the flamers on the internet are just expressing their opinions too. This is no different. And deleting the only comment that disagrees with you doesn’t help your case either. :)
So far though I only really desire one announced game for the PSP, and that is Lumines. The SONY line-up seems to pale in comparison with what Nintendo is trying to do. The launch games for the PSP are sort of weak and what is coming up I am also not very interested in. I just feel that SONY has the handheld gaming philosophy wrong. They seem to be just porting the same formula from the PS1 and PS2 which is a winning formula for consoles, but may not work too well on handhelds (formula as in how games are played). The gameboy was always about simple fun, and the DS seems to capture that spirit. Sure both systems have a lot of ports, but when you look at the original content for both systems the DS seems to edge out the PSP…espically with the big fisaco happening at SONY HQ now, the PSP may be trying to bite off more than it can chew…
Really hardware dosent matter on this one. Both machines are fully capable of running excellent games (golden eye for DS WOO HOO) in the long run it will all come down to games, if nintendo created a machine that people can actually code for and third party players sign into Nintedos camp, Nintendo wins, no offense Nintendo makes better games, if sega signs up with nintendo then psp is dead. If however Nintendo follows its current trend of doing its own little “thing” and if someone want then they can ask and make games for the machine, then psp wins hands down
i think that ill sit this one out for about a year to see how the systems progress.
btw, both are expandable, i give it two weeks before some one makes a mem device that mimics nintendos (mabey ill fill it with gba roms, that would be cool)
-Wes
the Ds woz only made to stop the psp from selling, everyone is obviously going to buy a hand held from nintendo than sony. i think that hardly any1 will play their movies on a psp though. my dad works with nintendo and actually thought of the idea of the touch screen. i played the finished version of the ds a month before it was releasedand have got both, a psp and ds. psp does get scratches, but so does the ds’s touch screen. psp has WAY better graphics and looks brilliant and on a ds, you cant hold it right because how are u meant to use a stylus shoulder buttons and ”A, B, Y, X” at the same time?? this is a major problem as i am left handed and havto put the console down somewhere to use it. also, the 2 screens suck major. you can only focos on 1 screen at a time.
“the Ds woz only made to stop the psp from selling” – What a bunch of bullshit. Nintendo have been making handheld consoles for as long as I remember, and Sony had to have a bit of the action. The only reason I would choose the PSP over the DS would be because of it’s stunning graphics. ia ctuallyplayed a PSP for the first time today…and it was good I agree, but it’s plain, it’s boring. The Ds has atleast attempted to take handheld gaming onto a different level. And I dont want to hear the excuse “PSP has Mp3′s and DVD’s”, do i care? It’s about gaming, not watching and listening to music. I want something which is actually different, and that’s were the DS comes in. The touch screen is amazing. The PSP has been done before….It’s just a complete remake of the GBA with better graphics…nothing more…..but that’s my opinion.
Im kinda fed up of everyone choosing the PSP. I know 2 people who would prefer a DS, and that’s including me….but it all leads down to your own personal choice. Choose which one you want.
PSP is technically superior (PERIOD).
It is designed for a whole different kind of media and entertainment experience. Nothing wrong with the DS…I bought one and traded it in toward my PSP. Nintendo’s brand of gaming overall is not suited to my taste and with the PSP I can make uses for it other than gaming. It’s a platform preference more than anything else. Knowing Sony’s track record I’d would say Nintendo is about to get a bite taken out of there Monopoly pie.
If anything it will push Nintendo to innovate. Am I the only one who thinks the DS was rushed to market? It’s been out since the fall and only has about 8 games available for it last time I was in EB or Gamestop. Your really comparing apples and oranges. I see the DS as a strict gaming system and the PSP as a multipurpose media device….that happens to play games.
heres how i sees it.
the touch screen is a clever control solution and really shines when you play metroid (and later, goldeneye, tho i really hope ea dont mess up that one)
The psp is supierior in terms of looks and power and is easily going to win the hearts of a lot of people with these sexy games and its image. however, all those people are the type that are satisfied with style over content.
for the less shallow of us, we can enjoy the expertly crafted nintendo games that we all expect while the rich gadgetboys can play games that are better suited to home consoles, but only for about 3 hours before the battery runs out. Then they can go home and recharge it before taking it out again so they can watch spiderman on the bus, or maybe another film theyve paid £20 for on top of their dvd purcahace.
If us ds owners reeally want the music and movies we can by a gba movie player 13 pounds. this runs flash cards that can easily fit a few episodes of simpsons or south park on, which, lets face it, are the only sort of things youre possible actually gonna watch when on the bus or tube or whatever.
plus, ipod beater? are you serious? there is no battle left, ipod won. the thing can hold all your music and looks sweet as a nut. no potential ipod owner, looking for a dedicated music player is gonna change their and go for the psp, which satifies a totally different set of consumer needs.
the psp will ‘win’ i expect, but i dont think this is something to fight about – if your a psp owner then youre happy with that, and if your part of the ds elite – well done, you value a qualty in videogames that is becoming a lost art.
Finally, a question – does anyone know if there are actually plans to bring out ds web browsing software? it could work by having the web page on the touch screen for basic browsing, and then when the cursor moved over a text entry field, it could switch and put a pictochat-esque keybord on the bottom, and even hanwriteing recognition software, and move the page to the top screen. This would be a functional way of browsing the internet from cafe hotspots and such.
OK i dont want to pay $379.00 for a handheld and $60.00 for a game that i already have for my xbox so theres no point to buying the psp. for the record the ds games are fun and very original so i trust in that the ds will rule.
Well boys and girls,
I must say that after seen the PSP, I had a hard time not buying it. The screen is so big that it makes you want to cry. Anyways… after reading all the comments on this thread I give my two cents.
- Alot of people have the saying: “Why would I want to watch a movie or play MP3′s on my handheld”, most of the time they refer to this as a negative point of the PSP, while you should think of new innovations. The Nintendo DS introduced the Touch Screen for the same reasons. If Nintendo and Sony keep doing the same things over and over, then we would be still be playing GBA and PS1/2.
- I must say that the Hockey game that is included with the PSP is pretty good… but kinda choppy when you are playing it, thus not impressing me at all! :$
NANDO how do you find your PSP? I think their good, but I feel that I have a Mp3 so why get a PSP coz I don’t see anything special about it.
Plus, Web browsing on the DS would be awesome with the touch screen….and you can just like touch the letters you want it to enter so not recogizing the handwriting won’t be a problem =D
I go to a school right next door to Nintendo of America. The majority of us whom attend DigiPen (look it up if you havent heard of it) are hardcore for Nintendo. But quite frankly, in my opinion, the DS does not compete with the PSP.
I’ve had this argument many times over — the one about graphics and shallow gamers.
Someone above said, “The psp is supierior in terms of looks and power” “… all those people are the type that are satisfied with style over content.” Well, it depends on what you consider content bro. Go ahead and call people who enjoy graphics shallow gamers — your argument holds no water, and you are in the minority. The argument ends with games such as Devil May Cry, Gran Turismo, DOOM III, and HalfeLife 2. Anyone who says that those games would still be enjoyable without their intensive graphics, I shake my head at. It comes down to genre prefrence. RPGs can still work great with two dimensional graphics, but then you’re simply advertising to a limited demographic.
Tell me, how many of you watch a movie such as the Matrix, and said the graphics of the movie made it shallow? If the Matrix had horrible CG, it would not have been as entertaining an experience. The argument can only be made that graphics do not REPLACE content, as the Matrix II and III clearly displayed. The same game, with better graphics will most likely always be more enjoyable.
To say that Playstation does not have any games of “substance” is not true in the least. While everyone may not agree with me, I feel the majority would when I point to Final Fantasy… most notably VII. The Final Fantasy series brings more content in terms of involved storyline, and intellectual integrity on a level that Zelda and Mario could never collectively imagine.
Nintendo is for a younger audience, after all it was Nintendo who took a lot of the mature content out of Final Fantasy III when it came to the US. While adults still enjoy Disney movies, they generally prefer Gladiator.
The PSPs battery life:
Playing offline, I get about 6 hours of life on the PSP. Who goes out for a day, and ends up having 6 hours of time to play a game? Why go out at all!? I can not think of a single event that would occur where I would end up using a portable system for more then two hours without having an opportunity to plug the thing in. Road trips are no problem… car chargers. For those of you amazing people have the talent of playing your portable system for six hours while your getting your oil changed at Jiffy Lube — the problem isnt the battery life. If you are that cool, buying a second battery isn’t a bad idea.
The price of the PSP? Well for me, I did not have to buy an MP3 player, or a portable DVD player, or a portable hard drive. Was it worth it? Hell yes. If you guys like old school nintendo games, imagine them emulated an incredibly sharp widescreen.
What does the DS have on the PSP? I dunno.
foolish people, the ds owns psp it has new innovative features like touch screen and voice recognition what does the psp have??? MP3′s and dvds? the ds will have that soon when panasonic realease the play chan. so wat if the psp has better graphics? i look for gameplay and am not willing to spend more money on less gameplay. SO EAT THAT PSP fans!!!
cough cough
you look 4 gameplay? then look at the psp u div. how can u say that the next ‘super mario’ is the better of the next mgs? or gt? or devil may cry? or grand theft auto? or… hte list goes on. and to be honest, i would chuck my ds in the bin 4 a umd dvd. touch screen is a good idea, but it sucks. you never use it to control something, apart from in rayman, but even then you end up putting the stylus back! you cant even control it properly! 2 screens suck aswell. you can only focos on one at a time. i think everyone who has a ds and says psp sucks should spent at least a few hours on a psp and be open minded. even if a nintendo fan thinks a psp iz better, they wont say so. i am a fan of both sony and nintendo. i play game boys outside on a trip, and my ps2 inside, and i think psp wipes the floor with ds. so there you go ‘SONY R BULLIES’ (which theyre not)ive eaten that.
ps: when i said that ds was only made to stop psp, i meant that they wouldnt have made it if sony hadnt made psp, and i think everyone knows nintendo have been making handhelds for yrs, that was the basis of my arguement
I think we all know who the victor is at the moment. Its the one who has been outselling the other in japan for a couple of months now. Its that same one that is projected to outsell the other in the u.s also- but only time will tell. And who cares who is the victor? Its about you like, my friends. Its your gaming Integrity that keeps gaming companies alive. The time you have wasted yelling at eachother could have been spent supporting the handheld you love- Go out and buy games- play them and nothing else will matter. This has been my mantra for many years.
I have been a nintendo fan since my childhood, but I am far from a child these days. My taste has changed while alot of games have remained the same.
But we all must play games and enjoy them.
STOP THE ARGUMENTS – START THE AGREEMENTS !
Sory, my english is bad. But I hope you understand my words.
kyosuke.
“how can u say that the next ‘super mario’ is the better of the next mgs? or gt? or devil may cry? or grand theft auto?”
theyre not the same, dont be silly. Mario is just pure fun, on a level seperate from most other games. if you dont get this then we are from different worlds, and shouldnt communicate lest one of us poisen the mind of the other.
“touch screen is a good idea, but it sucks. you never use it to control something, apart from in rayman, but even then you end up putting the stylus back! you cant even control it properly! 2 screens suck aswell. you can only focos on one at a time”
sorry, thats just not true. i, contravertially, but with pride, use my stylus to control mario and metroid, and you cant play warioware without it. you also couldnt play them without two screens, which i have no problem in switching my focus between, sometimes three or four times in a minuite (when im feeling “hyper”).
im not a zealot; i will buy a psp when they bring the price down, but i love my nds and it hurts me when you say bad things. if you MUST bash the ds, do so on its genuine weaknesses, like the lack of amazing games coming out any time soon, and the fact that there are still no comfirmed web browser plans, which i think are deperately needed.
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As far as im concerned the “dry disk” ( a term a friend and i have for a non harddrive gaming unit) DS is going to fail. For the past 10 years Nintendo has been walking on thin ice, sure its GBC and GBA have become popular, though now eclipsed by PSP and DS. The company started its walk of faliure in 1995 with the headache inducing Vitrual Boy, then GameCube, and now DS. It is sad to see a “know your roots” gaming instution go under, but with its current trend, with one more fiasco Nintendo may see itself in the red. The PSP is superior to DS or anyother handheld for that matter, because it plays better games than DS and is a multi-media powerhouse.The PSP is also the first Internet capable handheld system. All these features are rolled into a package only slightly larger than a GBA. This is a clear sign that Nintendo is in serious jeopardy with its DS. I believe that the DS created simply to stop consumers from buying the PSP ahead of the market. In short, the DS makes me sick to my stomach.
i think all you psp haters should go to hell, sure you can compare ds to psp and pick on things that arent true. But without compare, someone please tell me somthing bad about the psp apart from the price. nothing? thought so. now take the ds. lots of things wrong with it. the stylus scratchs the screen, it fells like a kids toy, it looks ****, the graphics are good, without compare, but the psp graphics are way better, its toooo big, the screens are tichy, the list goes on. so, can someone please tell me something bad about the psp without compareing it to the ds? please?
whats wrong with the psp?
as well as the price, there are the power issues of the psp, are a result of it trying to run games that need alot of processing power. the same is true with the umd drive, which has moving parts and is also uses the power heavily. this is without the wifi turned on. a portable multimedia system that can only go for 3 hours max is a problem with the psp.
the games available for psp are good, but are not suited to portable gaming. The games that graphically astounded us and engaged us on the ps2 will be fun to play, but lets face it, you arnt gonna be able to really enjoy mgs on the move. as this systems game line up will be largly ps2 ports, i think this is a problem for psp – sony and its developers do not know handheld gaming, especially not like nintendo. i think warioware and yoshi touch and go will be good examples of how portable games should be made, simple and fun, not lengly drawn out experineces that are better had on a home console.
Sonys multimedia functions are great(and fully replicable on the ds, i might add), but if my net md is anything to go by, there will be so much copywrite protection and restrictive programming trying to stop you from copying media, that it will make the whole thing a frustrating attempt which u wished u hadnt bothered with. dont forget, they arnt trying to please the consumer, theyre trying to flog you a 20 pound UMD copy of a dvd uve had for months.
This is another, more general problem – sony’s business attitude is souless and moneygrabbing – they have no creative interest in videogaming and the art of this. this is why they dont make games themselves. its the same as the apple company; people are only just starting to realise what a great company they are, and how their sofware is simply better made (itunes is by far a better music library that windows media player, for example) and this is because they share the consumers interests, and have better industry values. Sony are not intested in great gaming like nintendo are, which is why the psp, while being a tecnologically impressive powerful device, is just not as clever or interesting as the ds, as no passion when into the creation of it.
while im here – its just pathetic to cite the ds’ looks as a ‘negative point’. it looks like what it is, a games console (i personally think it looks sweet when youve got the stylus out and everything, but thats not the point. If you are the type of person who is suckered in to buying something cos it looks cool and will add to your ‘technoboy’ image, then youre opinions are ill-formd, and really, you should shush. The screens, also, are far from titchy, and between the two of them, they put on all the information you need to play the game. true, you cant watch a film in 16:9, but at least i wont have to shell out extortionate prices. my stylus hasnt scratched the screen, and trust me, after a few weeks your psp screen will look like a frosted window. unless you shell out some more money for a carry bag.
“The PSP is superior to DS or anyother handheld for that matter, because it plays better games than DS and is a multi-media powerhouse”
this is the attitude that is going to prevail, but i hope i am showing that it is overall not true, and that there is a genuinely good reason to give up on the psp, being that sony are an evil corperation, wheras nintendo love you.
The PSP is nothing more than the GBA with graphics. I was given one for my birthday, but retuned it straight away. I have an Xbox, so i really don’t care about graphics. I would get to a point that i wouldn’t know whether to buy a game for my Xbox or the same game for my PSP. I now have a DS. It rules.
Thanks for telling the truth about Sony .
I think your correct sony doesnt make creative stuff.
“As far as im concerned the “dry disk” ( a term a friend and i have for a non harddrive gaming unit) DS is going to fail. For the past 10 years Nintendo has been walking on thin ice, sure its GBC and GBA have become popular, though now eclipsed by PSP and DS. The company started its walk of faliure in 1995 with the headache inducing Vitrual Boy, then GameCube, and now DS. It is sad to see a “know your roots” gaming instution go under, but with its current trend, with one more fiasco Nintendo may see itself in the red. The PSP is superior to DS or anyother handheld for that matter, because it plays better games than DS and is a multi-media powerhouse.The PSP is also the first Internet capable handheld system. All these features are rolled into a package only slightly larger than a GBA. This is a clear sign that Nintendo is in serious jeopardy with its DS. I believe that the DS created simply to stop consumers from buying the PSP ahead of the market. In short, the DS makes me sick to my stomach.”
tHAT’s the biggest lie ever.. tHe DS vs. PSP argument is over DS won this is an old board the DS has sold 3,000,000 units world wide and in the u.s sales are slow for a system launch.. according to most stores in my area. THe ds has the same internet capabilities as the PSP learn your facts…
I’m from Italy. I’ve got a DS and i must say that it’s like handhelds should have to be.
Just fun. Fun to use, fun to play with. You know, it’s all about games we’r talkin ’bout.
I REALLY don’t care to spend 20 euros to get a dvd and watch it on my 52″ TV. But i’m NOT goin to buy it AGAIN to watch it on a PSP.
THAT’S CRAZY.
Sony is SO ARROGANT trying to imposte UMD!!
Maybe they expect me to buy TWO TIMES THE SAME FILM IN DIFFERENT FORMATS? …losers..
DS is really fun. Really. Batteries lasts AGES!
Games are addictives.
And remember, i’m 33 years old. If someone thinks DS is juvenile, i must say i’m HAPPY to be juvenile too, and enjoy a lot.
Please take your “self-made-man-so-mature-self-controlled-umd-watcher-on-ariplanes-but-i-cant-get-laid” out of my view.
If i want great graphic games, i end up using my PC, bye bye consoles….
CIAO A TUTTI!
HI EVERYBODY!
:)
I think that the statement that Sony has no reason to make inovative gameing hardware is right but they also have a reputation for makeing some of the best high quality electronics in the world and will knowingly make quality products to continue this reputation. Marking Sony as a money grubbing corperation is as valid as marking Nintendo the same, the reason nintendo works so hard to be inovative is because it understands that inovation is necessary to keep the market moving and make money. Oversimplifying things Nintendo is trying to inspire people to spend money where Sony is tempting people to spend money.
Overall I think that the PSP will be more successfull and this is shocking considering that the oposition to Nintendo handhelds despite sometimes being generally superior in performance have traditionally always been commercially outdone(Atari Lynx, Sega Gamegear/Nomad. etc.). I don’t think that the DS will fail however and Nintendo will maintain if not its former share of the market at least something close and most of the people you see walking around with a handheld for some years yet will be carying a Nintendo.
For myself I don’t have much money and if I were to buy a new handheld it would likely be a Nintendo DS but even more likely it would be a Game Boy Advance as the price is sure to come down especially in the second hand market. I already have a Gameboy Advance and I use it almost exclusively to play originall gameboy titles, when I am on the go graphics simply don’t matter to me I just want a cheap, simple, amusing distraction; multiplayer is good though and that is why I would buy another Gameboy Advance.
I don’t think this round is going to end with either corperation chased out of handhelds and I eagerly await the next round to see what inovations and technological advances can be crammed into a handheld as next time I might just buy a new one.
DS
…advantages…
.It’s great for people who like the old nintendo games.
.It has a long battery life.
.It has a touch screen which could be usefull on some games.
.it’s a lot cheaper.
…disadvantages…
.the only way to upgrade/ ad-on other stuff is through the GBA cartrage socket.
.It’s graphics are more like N64.
—PSP—
…Advantages…
.Sony/ other companys can ad-on whatever they want, TV, Internet, Keyboard, They’re even thinking of making a phone for it. and yes, if they wanted they could probably make a seperate touchscreen, although it’d probably drain the power quite quick.
.The screen is just amazing!
.analog control stick.
.The graphics of the PSP are so much more advanced, they’re almost like PS2 graphics.
.it looks more stylish.
.it Plays media… and yes i know DS can as well, but on the tiny DS screen, who’d want to watch a whole film on a screen that small!
.There’s a wider range of games for it.
__Disadvantages__
.I’ve already got a 20gb MP3 player, so i’m not bothered about that much.
.the battery life is 4-6 hours. (although i think the battery is removable so you could charge up 2 and swap them)
.it costs more.
.the memory sticks are expensive if you want one whith enough space for a whole load of music like 24 hours of music.
.it’s cool, so your likely to get mugged if you’re using it sitting on the pavement playing a game.
.internet = viruses… has sony made any antivirus software for it?
____conclusion____
I’m getting a psp… i want to be able to do loads of extra stuff. the DS will always just be a portabe games console, the PSP can be whatever sony want it to be.
weel as far as i am concerened both are really gud handhelds the case in psp is that it has better graphics and its SONY so you can expect anything from games to internet to movies to wireless for now it is a little expensive though it hopefully will come down but in a while..well the case with ds its nice the touch screen too,but the shape of it wierd oldy oldy. and the graphics are not as gudas the psp well.. it depends what type of games do you like but the touch screen is something creative…both are gud ds is almost half the price of ds ,but remeber quality matters not quantity.. i am sure you would feel that psp is too expensive but it really depends on our budget too..well this is my thinking although i dont own none of these but want to own one soon anybody can help suggesting me??
ok, ive come to a conclusion, i think the psp and the ds are aimed at different things, i think that they are totally different and we should not be having this aguement because ds is aimed at pure handheld gaming, but i think the touchscreen (which my dad desighned and everything, just in case you didnt get it earliar) is a stunt that nintendo shouldnt have jumped, a touchscreen would be good on something like the psp because of all the xtra features, it holds. the ds is just PURE gaming, and thats why i dont think the touch screen suits it, but most gamers want pure gameplay, so they go for the ds. i still think that the ts and dual screen suck, but thats just an opinion thats true to everyone. now the psp however is aimed at gamers who want MORE. (so was the ds but nintendo didnt pull it off right and started to create a disaster)so, as a conclusion i think.
HH, HH, HH, HMM.
NONE OF THEM ARE BETTER THAN THE OTHER, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT OUT OF YOUR CONSOLE/HANDHELD.
thank you, ‘BEEPS’
oh yeh, the psp is better because you can also hack onto the internet with them, this is how. UP
Some folks have discovered (news) that there is a web browser in Wipeout. When you load up the game and go to Downloads you’re actually visiting a Sony web page (which is currently just returning an image saying downloads are coming). Using DNS remapping, you can have your PSP go to a different location.
So, I spent some time exploring this and put together a little PSP Portal page which gives you a way to browse the web. Still working on it, but the idea is that it’s a portal to GameTab and the Internet in general (via Google search, or just by typing in any URL). For those w/o a PSP and wipeout, you can see the work in progress here. Believe me, it looks better on the PSP. ;)
Setup Instructions: (how to set your Primary DNS to 66.98.192.68)
1) Go to Network Settings
2) Select your connection (or make a new one)
3) Scroll through to Address Settings and select Custom
4) Scroll through to DNS Setting and select Manual
5) Set your Primary DNS to 66.98.192.68
6) Continue through and save your settings
You’re done! Now just load up Wipeout, go to Downloads and you’ll see the portal page. You can now surf the ‘net from your PSP.
Here is what the Setting List looks like for my connection:
IP Address: Automatic
Subnet Mask: Automatic
Default Router: Automatic
Primary DNS: 66.68.192.68
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Proxy Server: Do Not Use
By the way, even if you don’t have an access point, there is a fair chance you can get on a public one if you’re in a city. When you go to create/edit a connection, use Scan and you’ll see a list of all access points in your area. I did this last night and actually had access to 12(!) other access points other than my own.
Navigating the ‘net with your PSP:
X = Enter/Go
Square = Reload
Left shoulder button = Back
Right shoulder button = Forward
Directional pad = Scrolling
When you use a form, the PSP keypad pops up so you can enter text.
oh yeh and gt4 on ps2 IS online, just plug it in
Hiya,
Id just like to say, that i am a girl, and i have a Nintendo DS. I have always enjoyed playing on GameBoys etc, and bought my DS as soon as it came out. I would not buy a PSP, purely because the games are boring to me, no offence to all you hardcore guy gamers out there, but they are to me. I like cartoon games, puzzle games, any games that are coulorful, and to be honest, relatively easy to play, which the DS offers, aswell as ‘guy games’(soz dont know what else to call them, hehe). The release title games for PSP arent any of these things. So for me, as an individual, the DS wins hands down.
But thats what its all about, individuality. Get what suits you.
For all of you who think that the DS is immature or juvenile etc, then tell me why you play games at all, games arent meant to be mature and adult, games bring out the child in all of us.
yeah, that iz a good point, but it has to be wrong, it just has to be. because gta san andreas is the best game ever made, its fun to play, but if games are meant to bring the child out of you, then how come stuff like gta and mgs are fun? i honestly dont know the answer to that…
ive heard that the psp has insanly long loading times. and due to the fact that it usues discs is there not the possibility of skipping. also there is a new product by panasonic call the “play yan” which is originaly for the gameboy advanced sp but can obviously be used for the ds. and i agree about sony being more about the money than the consumer which is realy sad because if they were more like nintendo then they would definatley win this apparent war of the hand held gaming units.
but the psp is more of a all purpos entertainment device with crappy loading times and rubbish battery life which for the amount it costs is a rip off.
im going to betray my sony prefering background (i have both plastations) and follow my nintendo loving soul (i still have the original gameboy and the snes).
plus its cheaper
p.s. doesnt the psp look like an updated and sexyier version of the Atari Lynx
Hey, for you peole out there, the DS is really quite an awesome system! I have had one for quite a long time, and I just can’t put it down. I shall answer a few questions for you about the DS.
1) You can attach a thumb-strap to place on your thumb, so you can press the buttons, then use it for the buttons, then for the Touchscreen.
2) It’s not that hard for you to keep you eye on both screens! Mostly, you look at the top screen to move your character, then glance at the bottom to look at your map, or what ever is at the bottom screen.
3) Sure, most games may be re-releases (not all), but this is for the main purpose that you cannot get those games anywhere nowdays. Can you go to walmart or Kmart for Super Mario 64? Sure, maybe Ebay, but not everybody has a 64 or access to the internet.
4)Sure, there aren’t many games for it, but later on in this year, there will be better games for it later on, like “Kirby-Canvas Course”, Castlevania DS, and for any of you Final Fantasy lovers, Final Fantasy 3 (not 6-3, but the true 3 never before released in the U.S.).
I will think about buying a PSP until the price gets cheaper. I see nothing good about it; I have never been thrilled about Widescreen, it should’ve made the CD thingy bigger to be able to play PS1 games, that would of been good. Whoever said that who would like to watch something on the DS small screen (which it isn’t small), I wouldn’t mind! The graphics I saw wasn’t all that good, only a little better. I am not trying to insult the PSP, but I still see no reason to buy one.
I really don’t see why Nintendo and Sony fued like this! Back then, Sony was planning to release an add-on to the Snes. It was going to be a CD attachon like the Sega-CD, but they did backed out (which led to the production to the PSX). I can see Nintendo DS living in the Future, but I can see the PSP living as well. Sony is just being a bully- trying to show everyone it is better, and yes, this is a case of “Were better than you”, and everyone knows this is true. I can see that it won’t be too long until Microsoft tries its hand in the Handheld business.
Nintendo has always been for enjoyment, Sony is only in it for the money…
“I really don’t see why Nintendo and Sony fued like this! Back then, Sony was planning to release an add-on to the Snes. It was going to be a CD attachon like the Sega-CD, but they did backed out (which led to the production to the PSX). I can see Nintendo DS living in the Future, but I can see the PSP living as well. Sony is just being a bully- trying to show everyone it is better, and yes, this is a case of “Were better than you”, and everyone knows this is true. I can see that it won’t be too long until Microsoft tries its hand in the Handheld business.”
Microsoft actually is in the business with its gizmodo (better than xbox graphixs) but it costs like $700 so it doesn’t have any publicity. The sony company is going to die due to entering this area of gaming due to them getting sued by microsoft and recently they started to go into debt.
yeah the Gizmondo is an absolute rich kids toy.
its to expensive for it to be in the hand held market.
i might get a psp when the price falls but for now im concentrating on the ds
If u have a ps2 get a ds if you dont still get a ds most of the pixls die the first month u get a psp anyway
I would have to agree with ds i mean why is a mini playstation worth more than 200 dollars and u have to buy seporite dvd’s for it and u might not even be able to watch the whole dvd also i mean only 3 hour battery life so the psp is 300 dolars because it is 50 dollors for a second battery
yeah i heard about the dead pixels.
i bet nintendo murdered them
goooo nintendooo
I cant wait for madden 2006 and golden eye 007 and mario cart come out for the ds
i use to have a psp but my brother got a ds and it would be cool to play in those games so i got a ds
DS=64-gamecube graphics=150$
Psp=playstation graphics=250$(not worth it)
Basically, the PSP is trying to challenge three different areas at once: The realm of IPod, with PSP’s promise that itll play MP3s. why this will fail is because memory sticks will mean even MORE money since no one wants to put like 4 songs on the 25 meg stick PSP comes with.
Movies: possibly trying to compete with portable DVD players. I agree, no one wants to re-buy their movies just to watch em again.
Games: Darkstalkers, wipeout pure and GT4 look like pretty good games, and lumines.. i’m really not into puzzle games, but it looks like tetris fans will love it! other than that, i don’t see many other promising good games
Now for the DS: i could see why one would not like the DS. I mean, the whole stylus/2 screen idea is not the greatest of ideas, though still a fun thing to go with.
When it comes to games the DS isn’t that great either. the only somewhat worthwhile games are probably Super mario 64, Yoshi’s touch and go, and Wario ware (proabably metroid too).
My verdict is that those with a lot of money to spend should get the PSP, and those with less dough get the DS.
about dead those dead pixels, the ds has them aswell
sony being a bully? what a load of bull! the ds woz only made to stop the psp from selling, nintendo r bieng bullies, nintendo should let sony have a go at the handheld buisseniss. jesus.
“sony being a bully? what a load of bull! the ds woz only made to stop the psp from selling, nintendo r bieng bullies, nintendo should let sony have a go at the handheld buisseniss. jesus.”
No no no, the DS came out way before the PSP came out! Are you telling me that Nintendo read the minds of Sony? They found out in march of some time in 2005 they would release their PSP, so they released their DS in 2004? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That is funny! Um… no, graffitizak, just look what you wrote, and look what you wrote and see how silly you were!
is there another game boy comeing out sometime i heard and when?
for jake gobson i dont think that money think doesnt make a difference i mean its just 100 dollars
psp cant go online but ds can heheheh
psp suck and i recon Sony and Nintendo should get off there butts and work together to make a super console dont get me wrong they are at war right now but Sony cant make aproper hand held system and Nintendo have been
Not Much To Say, Nintendo Has Never Had Competetion, They’ve Made Their Marios, And Their Pokemons… But In All Honesty Here Comes This PSP, With Its General Attraction To Everyone. Heck I Know Adults (My Dad Even) Who Love Shooting Games and Tank Games and War Games, Who Wouldnt Even Think Of Playing Pokemon or Mario, And Now Nintendos Going To Have To Step Up
dude:
for people with out a job, 100 bux is quite a bit of money… That’s what i meant by “less dough”. i’m 16 and a bit short of cash myself :0
f u ‘a person…’ sony have been working on the psp 4 yrs, thats how nintendo released ds before psp, jesus. and cat, ds cant actually ”surf” the net can it? sony released internet capabiities before ds. ds is a remake, but it dosnt matter, whats better counts…
is it really free and or are there any catches when u buy it
I onhnestly like the ds in my oppinon dont get me wrong sony fans i have a ps2 so even if i did get a psp it would not worth it right except for the mp3 but big deal i have a computer
on april 11th there makeing hotspots for the ds and you will be able to talk on the mike and verse anyone all around the world and it is suppose to be awsome and the funniest game to do it on i heard is golden eye its going to be so cool
Can u go internet and video on the DS?
alex what school do u go to
Well, even if the PSP plans were out before the DS was, it really doesn’t matter! Nintendo’s Gameboy systems have always been about bringing back their old systems.
Gameboy=?
Gameboy Color=Nes
Gameboy Advance=Snes
Nintendo DS=N64
They most likely created the DS so they could bring back the N64, because alot of people loved that system back then. Besides, the Gameboy Advance was good, but beginning to become old and needed to retire, so they created their DS. Eventually, Nintendo will release a new Gameboy system in the future in about 3-6 years that will have Gamecube Graphics. Either way, they did not release the DS to be bullies to PSP, but just to release their new system, because the GBA was, like I said, beginning to grow old.
By the Way, what are the DS’s and PSP’s bit’s of graphics anyway? (Like the Gamecube is 128-bit, what are the new handhelds?)
hey im rod and i like theme both and i already got a ds and im getting a psp and i really think my nintendo is fun though especially when i get a new game called golden eye but i like them both the same and the real reason i want the psp is becaus i want the game tony halk and i like the idea of movies and music and i want to ask u do you have a psp a nintendo ds or both and if you have a psp can you tell me how the movies and music on the psp work thanks
The movies look good
Can u go internet and video on the DS?
alex
Video, mp3? Lik Sang, Gba Movie Player, £13 ($20?). Plays flash cards, available in all sizes.
Internet? I dunno, but i REAAALY want it. but with the Online service, palm software…..could be.
i hope so.
ok i got bored readong the same things about about the 20th of so post. and i still havent got an answer so here i go
firstly has the psp come out into Great Britain? and if so how many games come with it.
second does an Americain psp allow British games to work on it? (im going to america in a couple of weeks and better to buy their)
third i want to buy the psp as ive always been a playstation fanatic, they are reliable and have never broken for me. i still have the old nintendo 64 which i love to play and as you have already said it has the more classic fun games (goldeneye yay!). my sister has gotten the ds and i was playing on it for hours and i must say even though i only tried 1 game it was great! (sim urbz) only downside is that the touch screen could have been used a bit more.
so could anyone answer my questions and im changing my mind wheter to get the ds or psp when i go
I am not sure if the PSP has been released in Europe (I am sure you can do a search to find out, but I haven’t heard of it launching over there yet), but you can use PSP games on any PSP since the games aren’t region-locked.
Wait, after doing a search I can tell you that it hasn’t been released yet in Europe. They delayed the release to make sure there was a sufficient enough supply in North America.
ok thanks
just thought of some more questions..
how many games have been realeased in America? and are they any good.
also how much do they sell for? are they worth the price or should i wait till they are released here and go down in price in sales?
“Eventually, Nintendo will release a new Gameboy system in the future in about 3-6 years”
Actually from what i hear, nintendo says that a new game boy system is coming out possibly coming out as soon as this year’s holiday… But that’s just IGN
how much is the psp in america roughly?
and how many games have been released with it? are they any good?
Personally, i see no point in spending another £100 on extras i won’t use. I’m going to get a DS because i want a handheld gaming maching, not an entertainment system. If i want music and videos, I’ll use my mp3 player and my mobile phone. The combined size of them is still probably smaller than the psp.
yes wht is the point in adding mp3 and videos if u can just buy an mp3 and mobile phone and have both for much cheaper price???…..
heres why! it small its stylish it plays (they say) great games and come on its from SONY! they constantly bring out kik in the ass things so tbh id get psp just to see what surprizes theyve made!!!!!
the psp isnt out in uk, cauz i live in england, its coming out on the 28th april according to amazon.co.uk by the way, that free psp thing iz a scam, itz called pyramid, u refer people to it and they keep getting money and stuff. itz going around evrywhere!!! evry1 who falls 4 it iz a mug, i mean, a psp 4 3? u really think so? jesus.
hey i know the psp and ds are pretty much equal but the new gamboy revolution comeing out in about 8 months is suppose to be the greatest hand held ever and what is E3 that is weird?
E3 is the largest gaming show thingy um, ever. this yr itz bein held in la
DS is more innovative then the PSP. Sure the PSP has better graphics but graphics don’t matter if the game is rubbish.
The touch screen will be used in different ways to control the game, in some games it will be better than others.
I think both of them will be good in their own ways but the DS is, in my opinion better for the innovative new games.
fo sho jimico ds all the way
The ds has been in tha macking FOREVER ive tracked it
has anyone mentioned Picto-chat,
cant do tha on you PSP!!
But im pretty torn between the two
PSP Pros
Graphics
music
movies
Cons
Battery life and no picto chat
hard games
DS Pros:
DS
Touchscreen
picto-chat
easy games, but fun
DS cons:
for some hard to hold
ot as good graphics
takes some getting used to
Hey, I have a question for all of you PSP lovers out there.
I like to observe graphics, and I was just curious if the map tilesets blur out like the systems do now? Like how you go up to a wall (in 3rd person view) and as you go closer, it starts to blur out. Just asking, I was wanting to know.
So, has anyone figured out what bits of graphics the DS and PSP has (Example again-N64 had 64, Gamecube had 128). Please tell me peoples!
The psp has ps1-ps2 graphics
the ds is n64-game cube in graphics i dont no the bits and peaces of it but that what i heard on ign.com
graffitizac if your dad invented the touch like u said on the ds if you didnt like it why didnt u give him tips and i highly doubt he did anyway
well i jus dont know which to decide on i mean psp has more options but nintendo knows how things in the handheld industry work im leaning toward ds though becuase im an rpg gamer and well sony has been makes loads of rpgs on there consoles and nintendo isnt u tend to remember the clasics on the nintendo and super nintendo rather then most rpgs sonys throwing out and nintendo has more series to fall back on and even some new ones like fire emblem which are has been a great game since it came out of japan but even without the rpgs who doesnt look foward to them makeing n64 games on the ds.i just hope they remake starfox 64 i loved that game.
p.s. hope lufia makes a apearence on the ds but my hopes arent that high
ok, here we go, can ds go online? NO! psp can, and it also has a form of picto chat where you can just talk over internet and LAN. And ds hasnt been in the making forever, and you didnt track it, cause its not true. and my dad did make the touch screen, if you want, track him down aswell, names Adel Attia.
jesus.
also, you can make movies on psp with a perithal, SUKAZ
jesus.
I read this one response, it is the one thing I have been wanting to hear! Posted by #81 | bad bay bad boy what you gonna do, he wrote the exact reason why the Sony PSP is popular… BECAUSE IT IS MADE BY SONY!!! Exactly!! Because it was made by sony, it is popular. Is the Nintendo DS was transformed into Sony DS, then everyone would love it! ONLY BECAUSE SONY MADE IT!!!!! If Nintendo Made the PSP,everyone would hate it! That is how the world is, and no one better deny this, because you all know that this is true!
Backstabbers are what you all are!
DS CAN GO ONLINE FOR FREE (not sure if the PSP is free) you CAN play movies and music on the DS but you have to buy a peripheral- this also means you can make your own video flash cards. You will probably be able to talk over the LAN / internat on the DS later on when more games are out for it.
Sony is a money grabbing company that doesn’t care about its customers. PS2 built in defect in the disc reader that goes after 3 years so you have to buy a new one.
im going to have to agree with JIMICO on that one lets face it sony is just a mony grabing company while pretty much all nintendo has is video games so nintendo will relaese better ones that take more time and effort. plus he has a point that the ps2s are somewhat defective and im wondering whats stoping sony from doing the same thing on the psp.i just think that nintendos sorta got all the good games.
psp online IS free, and heres 2 facts that prove psp is better no matter what u say afta this post…
1stly, psp can play SNES games and all gameboy game with the help of a peripheral, and ds cant even tho itz made by nintendo!!!!
2ndly, Why is sony so poular? because they made the playstation, thats why, they r the best at home consoles, thats why every1 wants to get a psp. Sony just want to have a stabb at the handheld buissness, and u gotta let them right? and as i said before , the ds was made just to stop the psp from selling because nitendo r bullies and know that sony is going to outsell them. I shuld know, because my dad works at nintendo and is deputy of some department of somthing. dont u think its a bit of a coincedence that nintendo only started work on the ds as soon as sony annouced thier psp last year? the ds is just a cheap plastic toy that nintendo didnt take any time over.
and before u start swearing at me, so’s ur mum.
jesus