Spammer Sues Users, Keeps Spamming

Thursday, Mar. 17 2005 | Author: jeremy

Spammers really do have no conscience at all.

Here is an article on the case of an Oklahoma City man who tried to opt-out of spam he was receiving from a company in Virginia. Instead of honoring his request, the company sues him in Federal Court for defamation (for calling them Spammers), costing him money in attorney fees and what-not.

In addition to all the trouble of a legal case, they still kept sending him spam.

“I asked this company to quit sending me spam. Instead of honoring my request, it continued to send me spam. Even after filing suit against me in an apparent attempt to cost me money and discourage me from pursuing rightful damages under Oklahoma’s spam laws, it continued to send me spam.

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5 Responses for "Spammer Sues Users, Keeps Spamming"

cliche

March 17th, 2005 at 10:38 am
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I don’t want to sound mean… actually, I don’t care. I don’t like this guy and I don’t trust him.

His page, supposedly, is created to ask for help and informing others of what happened. But he starts it off with his own advertisement of his own services linked to his business site.

“He runs a one-man web hosting design shop… world class design and hosting packages for absurdly affordable prices.”

In my book, this is no better than spam. Besides which, his site sucks: It’s ugly, doesn’t render correctly in Firefox, no CSS, and his HTML doesn’t even validate. But this isn’t about his skills, so I’ll move on.

“WebGuy offers the spammers an extremely generous âout of courtâ� settlement offer of 5Â¢ on the dollar. WebGuy offers to settle a $150,000.00 lawsuit for a measly $6,250.”

So this guy threatens to sue if they don’t pay? He’s a friggin golddigger. “Extremely generous” my arse! He wants free money! His excuse for the threat is as below.

“WebGuy is forced to change email addresses with hundreds of people. WebGuy now risks not receiving important email now that a key âbusiness use onlyâ� email address is contaminated.”

Umm… would you be forced to change your email address if you’re getting one junkmail from one company once a week with the very deceiving subject of “Weekly Cruise E-deals” from the very deceiving sender by the name of cruisedeals@cruise.com? Hell, I’d be jumping up and down in joy if that’s all I’m getting. This is one sorry excuse.

After they ignore his threat, he gets pissed and put them up on sueaspammer.com. Now, from what I know, cruise.com is a valid company associated with valid cruiseliners (like orbitz or travelocity). Of course they’ll sue for defamation if they’ve been defamed.

I personally never got spam from cruise.com, but I’m fairly sure that a company grossing $800 million a year will not risk ignoring a removal letter. Speaking of which, all of his proof of the bombardment of spams link to the same page of one spam dated December 29th 2004. Maybe he did that to save bandwidth. But isn’t it more likely that cruise.com didn’t really send him spam after his request for removal?

Most people know not to belive everything on TV, but the same people believe everything they read on the internet. This strikes me odd: At least on TV, it takes a bunch of people with similar perspective on a given subject to invest lots of money for production and airtime–as opposed to a web page that can be made by a single moron with a single moronic perspective with an investment of a couple of happy meals.
e-securis

March 17th, 2005 at 2:00 pm
2

Mark is a good guy, i have known him for years and i am sadden by all the bad things being said about him. i guess people just want to take up for a spammer, i just dont get it
cliche

March 17th, 2005 at 4:13 pm
3

e-securis,
I hate spammers as much as the next guy, but not all junkmail is spam, and even legitamate companies can send ads if I’ve signed on to something. This Mark guy is abusing the can-spam law and makes money threatening and suing “spammers” and makes himself look like a modern day hero. I’ve only heard his side of the story, but even his own story makes himself look bad.

From what I’ve seen on his resume, he supposedly managed the legal department of some company–without having any background in law or business whatsoever (he probably was a clerk or something). He also worked in the ADVERTISEMENT department of another company. Put that experience together, add the can-spam law, some targets that everybody hate, and you get money! Except he picked a wrong guy this time and he’s getting rightfully screwed.

If you’re gonna tell me he makes a living as the ‘webguy’, guess again. In the ‘our users’ section of webguy.net, he proudly boasts his only credentials: Four certificates from–get this–brainbench.com! They are for html 3.2, html 4.0, and Computer Industry Knowledge. Oh, I forgot to mention the prestegeous “MS Windows 95 Navigation” that he RECEIVED IN 2003!!! If that’s not enough to convince you, below is part the source directly taken from webguy.net:
This is a Framed Site!
Download a FREE Frames and Java Enabled Browser
cliche

March 17th, 2005 at 4:19 pm
4

Oops. That should have read:

[font size=2]This is a [b]Framed Site[/b]![br]
Download a FREE Frames and Java Enabled Browser [a href="http://www.microsoft.com/ie/download/"]

Damn, called someone a noob and it just came right back at me.
SlyWorm

March 28th, 2005 at 3:20 pm
5

ALL Spammers need to be shot DEAD! Bring it on spammers, you will be hacked ;)