Comments on: Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog Review

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By: Peter

Peter — Tue, 04 Oct 2005 09:41:26 +0000

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By: Daniel Brodzik

Daniel Brodzik — Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:03:21 +0000

I must say, Ubuntu/Kubuntu rocks! Debian 3.0 was my first distro (yup, it’s true). I also tried Fedora (awful), Slackware (confusing), and Mandr(ake || iva). I missed Debian with all those. I just wanted something more up-to-date but not considered “unstable”. I stayed with Mandrake/Mandriva for about 5 months, but when I discovered Kubuntu (I’m a KDE fanatic–so what?), I was hooked. Everything I ever loved about Debian was there, plus it was up-to-date! This is also the only distribution that I’ve used that supports everything on my new Toshiba Satellite A65-S126 laptop out of the box, including the Atheros Wi-Fi card. Great job, Ubuntu/Kubuntu team! This is my new favorite distro. Yeah, I’m a sucker for the humanity themes in Debian and Ubuntu also…

By: LeNordiq

LeNordiq — Wed, 18 May 2005 18:35:59 +0000

Great review, Josh!

I was looking for an OPINION on Ubuntu, a testimony from an ordinary user; not an in depth analysis. Too much technical babble scares away the Windoze zombies (see comment #56) from Linux.

I have been willing to move from Windoze to Linux for a couple of years, but the distros I tried all demanded some expertise I don’t have. To me, Ubuntu looks like a valid alternative to Windoze since it is easy to install and use without having to deal with the underlying intricacies of Linux. And since I am already familiar with OpenOffice, Firefox and Thunderbird, I think the move will be smooth…

Vive Ubuntu!

By: nunya

nunya — Mon, 09 May 2005 17:34:03 +0000

Agree with #63, Ubuntu is decidedly NOT the “rock” some say it to be. There are major stability problems there, when you actually try to *use* the system. I think the root of this problem is the fact that the devs have a set date, so it ships, whether it’s ready or not. My prediction, after Sarge ships stable, all the people that jumped ship to Ubuntu will be right back, and there will be some percentage of Ubuntu newbies moving to Debian to see what the *Real Thing* is like, and they too will scoff at Ubuntu.

By: Jollyd

Jollyd — Sun, 01 May 2005 18:10:57 +0000

I use Debian Sid since last year and It’s my first distro … Recently I didn’t felt the need to install ubuntu however tremendous were friends using Hoary…
but now I know that keeping Debian as my favourite distro was right.
According to me Ubuntu currently sucks( maybe cuz it’s too young)…
My friends now keep complaining about hoary’s numerous bugs, repositories not clean, etc.. and I’m the one who try to fix their problems :(…
Ubuntu is a good distro for newbies when you use it like windows but when you try to really ‘use’ the distro … boom !
The review is too kind cuz it’s not a long-term review however good the review is !
Ubuntu keeps focusing on the fact it’s up-to-date but according to me a Debian SID is doing the job better; off course the install process isn’t as easy but Debian is definitely “SOLID”, Ubuntu not.
Wasn’t that hard to provide debian an installer like ubuntu instead of creating another distro ? Note: Ubuntu’s having the good role: few ports instead of 11 for debian: easy to maintain but in fact repositories are hum hum …
Ubuntu lacks flexibility as a conclusion …
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By: Tom R

Tom R — Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:18:16 +0000

I am LOVING Ubuntu! I am thisclose to installing it!
Thanks for the review and don’t worry about the negative comments. Reviews will ALWAYS have negative feedbacks.

TomR
N.Y.

By: Will G.

Will G. — Sat, 23 Apr 2005 05:29:05 +0000

To #23: I just did an article for osnews.com on Linux on Laptops, and my distro of choice is Ubuntu.

To the author of the review, good job and keep writing reviews. One important skill to develop as a writer is to filter trolls, naysayers, and respond to kind/constructive comments. Responding to trolls is giving them an honor they don’t deserve :)

cheers,
-will–

By: havesometea

havesometea — Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:13:25 +0000

Great review…and a big stfu to the haters. My only problem with Ubuntu is one that is shared with almost every other Linux distro I have used. Video card driver support…this has less to do with Linux and more to do with the proprietary nature of the vendors usually.

By: Adam

Adam — Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:30:23 +0000

I just started using Ubuntu recently, and I think this was a good review. Please do not pay any attention to the trolls, they’re the reason Linux hasn’t been able to reach the masses as we all know it’s capable of doing. I’ve been a complete OS X user, and I’m going to continue using it because it’s also a fantastic OS, but I think I ‘m damn close to being able to drop windows all together. The only real reason I’ve continued to use Windows is games, I know I’m not alone in that aspect, but I’ve seen a few posts about games like counterstrike running fine in Ubuntu. I think we’re witnessing the beginning of Linux’s mainstream birth with this distro, it really is that good. My only real issue is that ATI’s drivers need some serious work.

Good job on the review, maybe you can publish your findings over time in a series of articles? Thanks!

By: linopus

linopus — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:01:03 +0000

I ‘am testing Ubuntu for a couple of months now. First with V4.10 (Warty) and since a week V5.04 (Hoary). Both versions work fine on a IBM laptop P2 with 128MB and on a clone pc AMD duron with 512MB. Installing is just a piece of cake and with tips and tricks on he ubuntuguide.org site tweaking and installing other software is easy. I am using Openoffice, firefox and thunderbird(TB) for a while on win systems and I installed them on Linux. Even my usb webcam works on Ubuntu. I am really thinking to migrate my win W2K and XP systems to Ubuntu. The only struggle that I have for the moment is migrating my win TB mails to TB linux. Someone tips?
PS: your review is clear, nice and honest. Please keep faith in what you are doing.
Linopus

By: George

George — Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:38:06 +0000

I agree; Great review, Josh!

Also, I love Kubuntu!

By: Murray

Murray — Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:03:37 +0000

Is the reviewer an expert?
I don’t care!
Did he give an honest opinion?
I think so!
Is Ubuntu a good distro to help convert Windoze zombies over to Linux?

ABSOBLOODYLUTELY!!

Great review, Josh. Ignore those with their heads up their lunuxes.
[COLOR=indigo]test[/COLOR]

By: self

self — Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:23:19 +0000

And they called it “hoary” because …? Just because someone uses the name of some animal to label their release doesn’t mean that they are invoking every possible connotation of that name. One could as well point out that a hedgehog is a bug eater, if one were bent on being inane.

By: JoelW

JoelW — Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:14:01 +0000

HEDGEHOG:

I could be wrong about this, but I was reading a book called “Better to Best” and there is a reference to a story about a hedgehog and a fox. Since it is a business minded book, the moral of the hedgehog is it’s SIMPLICITY OF FOCUS to survive. If this was intentional, I could only assume they were trying to describe the distro as a “best in class” practice aimed at winning acceptance because of it’s focus on their goal – simplicity.

This was referred to as the Hedgehog approach.

By: self

self — Wed, 13 Apr 2005 01:18:28 +0000

“I agree with Nicole, if this was a power user review then I can see going into details about how easy it is to compile the kernel, but everyday use shouldn’t require a kernel compile”

The point was that the reviewer made a false statement: “you don’t get to compile your own kernel, etc.” Whether it is easy or required or what the details are or whatever is beside the point.

As for Nicole’s statement “No need for condescension around here” — that sort of rank hypocrisy amuses me. If there’s no need for condescension, then why did she put down someone for making a critical comment? In fact most of us do need condescension, as a way to shore up our feelings of self worth by putting others down. Here we see some folks, including Nicole, suggesting that it’s actually *better* to be wrong, misinformed, ignorant, unexperienced, etc. But it isn’t necessary to actually be a newbie in order to write a review that’s useful to newbies and casual users.

By: John Coombes

John Coombes — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:27:59 +0000

I have installed Ubuntu 5.04 on my AOpen Notebook (Like Acea) and added the complete KDE to it (as per instructions in the Ubuntu Wiki). It did quite a god job and even comes closer (than other distros I have played with) to my already installed Mandrake 10.1 off Power Pack.

How ever there is one thing that I have an issue with ? IVP6 being used by default. Now I am not sure if this problem is caused by the distro builders – or – the Kernel maintainers ? suffice to say I have already solved the problem myself, having already encountered and solved it with Mandrake 10.0 & 10.1

For those who notice SLOW WEB BROWSING you may want to look at “my” solution posted today in the Ubuntu Wiki called “Web Browsing slow ( IVP6 IVP4 )” it can be found here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WebBrowsingSlowIVP6IVP4

NB: although it is most noticable in Web Browsing it also affects other types of web access