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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12075</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem is not that the advertising is there. the problem is that it is of such poor quality.

A newspaper is laid-out in such a way that the content is intermixed with advertising messages, in some harmonious fashion. (quality of the medium)

A newspaper advertisement is laid-out in such a way to appeal to a particular segment of the market. They spend a lot on writers, graphic artists, photographers, to make the best impact possible (quality of advert.)

When browsing the pages of the NY Times, one doesn&#039;t mind the advertising. Some of it is entertaining, informative, or appeals in some way, but you can take it or leave it.

The same is not true of internet popup advertising. Thus Mr. Smith&#039;s analogy is poor; everyone on this forum agrees. Popup advertising is of minimal relevance and usually very poor quality. It&#039;s easy to understand why most internet users want to block it.

To tell the truth, I might be wrong about all this: I don&#039;t know the current state of popup advertising because my popup blockers seem to work so well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem is not that the advertising is there. the problem is that it is of such poor quality.</p>
<p>A newspaper is laid-out in such a way that the content is intermixed with advertising messages, in some harmonious fashion. (quality of the medium)</p>
<p>A newspaper advertisement is laid-out in such a way to appeal to a particular segment of the market. They spend a lot on writers, graphic artists, photographers, to make the best impact possible (quality of advert.)</p>
<p>When browsing the pages of the NY Times, one doesn&#8217;t mind the advertising. Some of it is entertaining, informative, or appeals in some way, but you can take it or leave it.</p>
<p>The same is not true of internet popup advertising. Thus Mr. Smith&#8217;s analogy is poor; everyone on this forum agrees. Popup advertising is of minimal relevance and usually very poor quality. It&#8217;s easy to understand why most internet users want to block it.</p>
<p>To tell the truth, I might be wrong about all this: I don&#8217;t know the current state of popup advertising because my popup blockers seem to work so well.</p>
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		<title>By: Clyde</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12074</link>
		<dc:creator>Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12073</link>
		<dc:creator>bronchitis remedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 03:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dog training</title>
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		<dc:creator>dog training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 04:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, my bad. I started writting my comment then started over. Thats why the top paragraph just stops. Haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, my bad. I started writting my comment then started over. Thats why the top paragraph just stops. Haha.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12070</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 04:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, I have a question. If webmasters, bloggers, or whoever doesn&#039;t get a commision from their ads, are they going to start including

With new browsers such as Firefox popup blockers are built right in. You can even get an extension called Adblock that can block any ad. Including those ads made with Flash.
With these new ways to block the ads, will webmasters, bloggers, etc, start advertising for companies by blogging about them? Ads are even being spotted in RSS Feeds. Will it ever stop? I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, I have a question. If webmasters, bloggers, or whoever doesn&#8217;t get a commision from their ads, are they going to start including</p>
<p>With new browsers such as Firefox popup blockers are built right in. You can even get an extension called Adblock that can block any ad. Including those ads made with Flash.<br />
With these new ways to block the ads, will webmasters, bloggers, etc, start advertising for companies by blogging about them? Ads are even being spotted in RSS Feeds. Will it ever stop? I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: cliche</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12069</link>
		<dc:creator>cliche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s clear that the guy blew things out of proportion, but there&#039;s still an inkling of truth behind his propaganda: We wouldn&#039;t be on this site without ad revenue.  Now, I know that some of you will say, &#039;but cliche, text ads aren&#039;t as obtrusive as graphic ones!&#039;  I&#039;m not trying to argue with you and I love Google to death, largely because I have a lot invested in them.  I know that Doubleclick ads are annoying to say the least.  But when you get down to the core, *some* ads are necessary--else, sites like this one will disappear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s clear that the guy blew things out of proportion, but there&#8217;s still an inkling of truth behind his propaganda: We wouldn&#8217;t be on this site without ad revenue.  Now, I know that some of you will say, &#8216;but cliche, text ads aren&#8217;t as obtrusive as graphic ones!&#8217;  I&#8217;m not trying to argue with you and I love Google to death, largely because I have a lot invested in them.  I know that Doubleclick ads are annoying to say the least.  But when you get down to the core, *some* ads are necessary&#8211;else, sites like this one will disappear.</p>
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		<title>By: The Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12068</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, I think you&#039;d find its both, a moron because he actually though people would listen to his lies :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, I think you&#8217;d find its both, a moron because he actually though people would listen to his lies :)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul D</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12067</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comparison would also be more valid if newspaper ads:
1. Covered up newspaper content and made you touch a tiny x to elminate them.
2. Played offensive music and sound effects.
3. Were bright, garish, and animated.
4. Made reading the paper and turning pages really slow.
5. Left goo all over your hands and clothing that had to be washed out later (analogy: thousands of needless cookies on your hard disk that never expire)

And as others have pointed out, a newspaper with ads blocked wouldn&#039;t have &quot;holes cut out of it&quot;. It would simply have more whitespace or be smaller with fewer pages. No one would complain, certainly.

Clearly, this Doubleclick guy is either the world&#039;s biggest moron, or lying through his teeth. I&#039;m betting the latter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comparison would also be more valid if newspaper ads:<br />
1. Covered up newspaper content and made you touch a tiny x to elminate them.<br />
2. Played offensive music and sound effects.<br />
3. Were bright, garish, and animated.<br />
4. Made reading the paper and turning pages really slow.<br />
5. Left goo all over your hands and clothing that had to be washed out later (analogy: thousands of needless cookies on your hard disk that never expire)</p>
<p>And as others have pointed out, a newspaper with ads blocked wouldn&#8217;t have &#8220;holes cut out of it&#8221;. It would simply have more whitespace or be smaller with fewer pages. No one would complain, certainly.</p>
<p>Clearly, this Doubleclick guy is either the world&#8217;s biggest moron, or lying through his teeth. I&#8217;m betting the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: Wali</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12066</link>
		<dc:creator>Wali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If everytime you touched (perhaps not even on purpose) the ad it flew out and tried giving you a paper cut, then it&#039;d be a valid comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If everytime you touched (perhaps not even on purpose) the ad it flew out and tried giving you a paper cut, then it&#8217;d be a valid comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This fellow is comparing apples to oranges.  The only reason why popup blockers were invented and have gained considerable popularity, is because of the invasive, crazed attack we have been forced to endure online from advertisers. Newspapers have no such feature (thank God).

If somehow we were bludgened to death by newspaper advertisements in a similarly insidious fashion, I am sure they would lose some business.

Of course, if you do look at a newspaper, there are advertisements all over the place.  Maybe it&#039;s all the fact that newspapers have been around forever (along with magazines, billboards, and all other types of *print* media).  We have grown up with them, and visually, maybe we just tune out the ads when looking at the paper without even noticing it.

The Internet is still a relatively new thing...perhaps social engineering hasn&#039;t quite taken place yet, for us to ignore ads online...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This fellow is comparing apples to oranges.  The only reason why popup blockers were invented and have gained considerable popularity, is because of the invasive, crazed attack we have been forced to endure online from advertisers. Newspapers have no such feature (thank God).</p>
<p>If somehow we were bludgened to death by newspaper advertisements in a similarly insidious fashion, I am sure they would lose some business.</p>
<p>Of course, if you do look at a newspaper, there are advertisements all over the place.  Maybe it&#8217;s all the fact that newspapers have been around forever (along with magazines, billboards, and all other types of *print* media).  We have grown up with them, and visually, maybe we just tune out the ads when looking at the paper without even noticing it.</p>
<p>The Internet is still a relatively new thing&#8230;perhaps social engineering hasn&#8217;t quite taken place yet, for us to ignore ads online&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EDIT: strip club ad.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12063</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. The newspaper wouldn&#039;t have empty holes in it. It would just be a smaller paper.

2. The newspaper wouldn&#039;t cost 25 cents without the ads. It would cost more.

3. I actually wouldn&#039;t mind reading the sports page and not seeing the mandatory stip club ad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. The newspaper wouldn&#8217;t have empty holes in it. It would just be a smaller paper.</p>
<p>2. The newspaper wouldn&#8217;t cost 25 cents without the ads. It would cost more.</p>
<p>3. I actually wouldn&#8217;t mind reading the sports page and not seeing the mandatory stip club ad.</p>
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		<title>By: tech geek chessmaster</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12062</link>
		<dc:creator>tech geek chessmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone here is converying the obvious... it is really pitiful</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone here is converying the obvious&#8230; it is really pitiful</p>
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		<title>By: Inferior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inferior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldnt mind ads if it was in my interest, like games, or movies. But ads that i dont want gets annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldnt mind ads if it was in my interest, like games, or movies. But ads that i dont want gets annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: trovster</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12060</link>
		<dc:creator>trovster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, that&#039;s comical. I think he&#039;s missed the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, that&#8217;s comical. I think he&#8217;s missed the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Lissy</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12059</link>
		<dc:creator>Lissy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obviously people who block the ads aren&#039;t going to be clicking on them in the first place anyway.
And those ones that talk scare the frell outta me! I would never buy a newspaper if the ads talked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obviously people who block the ads aren&#8217;t going to be clicking on them in the first place anyway.<br />
And those ones that talk scare the frell outta me! I would never buy a newspaper if the ads talked.</p>
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		<title>By: The Wookie</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12058</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a f***tard.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Wilcox</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/doubleclick_warns_against_ad_blockers/#comment-12057</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he&#039;s living in a dream world. I wouldn&#039;t care a bit if the ads were missing. I don&#039;t buy a paper to read the adverts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he&#8217;s living in a dream world. I wouldn&#8217;t care a bit if the ads were missing. I don&#8217;t buy a paper to read the adverts&#8230;</p>
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