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	<title>Comments on: Steve Jobs WWDC Keynote</title>
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	<description>Nerds are for Dorks</description>
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		<title>By: Renee Cousins</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16731</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee Cousins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New software will be compiled in a form they&#039;re calling Universal Binaries (UBs) (remember fat binaries with both PPC and 68K code?), and aparently it&#039;s going to be relatively trivial for third-party vendors to release recompiled code in this form (with the new release of X-Code 2.1). So long as they continue building UBs and not switch to pure Intel code, then I can see PPC systems sticking around for a while yet, and running Leopard just fine!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New software will be compiled in a form they&#8217;re calling Universal Binaries (UBs) (remember fat binaries with both PPC and 68K code?), and aparently it&#8217;s going to be relatively trivial for third-party vendors to release recompiled code in this form (with the new release of X-Code 2.1). So long as they continue building UBs and not switch to pure Intel code, then I can see PPC systems sticking around for a while yet, and running Leopard just fine!</p>
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		<title>By: cameron (desk003)</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16730</link>
		<dc:creator>cameron (desk003)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 02:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that makes me wonder is that they dont say that software compiled for intel will run on the ppc chips. That&#039;s whats making me think about waiting to get my powerbook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that makes me wonder is that they dont say that software compiled for intel will run on the ppc chips. That&#8217;s whats making me think about waiting to get my powerbook.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16729</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note they said that the Apple Intel boxes will be able to run Windows. But not the other way around.

As a die-hard PC user who uses OSX at work, I would think very seriously about buying an Apple box to be able to run both...

As long as Apple can keep OSX off normal PCs, they&#039;ve just opened up a huge market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note they said that the Apple Intel boxes will be able to run Windows. But not the other way around.</p>
<p>As a die-hard PC user who uses OSX at work, I would think very seriously about buying an Apple box to be able to run both&#8230;</p>
<p>As long as Apple can keep OSX off normal PCs, they&#8217;ve just opened up a huge market.</p>
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		<title>By: cameron (desk003)</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16728</link>
		<dc:creator>cameron (desk003)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/06/06.16.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/06/06.16.shtml&lt;/a&gt;
oops, I thought that&#039;d auto-link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/06/06.16.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/06/06.16.shtml</a><br />
oops, I thought that&#8217;d auto-link.</p>
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		<title>By: cameron (desk003)</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16727</link>
		<dc:creator>cameron (desk003)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They say in http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/06/06.16.shtml that it&#039;s a p4... I doubt it&#039;s any p4, I bet they make a specilized version. Apple would lose lots of money if they don&#039;t. Then people would just buy OS X and put it on their current p4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They say in <a href="http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/06/06.16.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/06/06.16.shtml</a> that it&#8217;s a p4&#8230; I doubt it&#8217;s any p4, I bet they make a specilized version. Apple would lose lots of money if they don&#8217;t. Then people would just buy OS X and put it on their current p4.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Flint</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16726</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Flint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are going to release some emulation software called &quot;Rosetta&quot; (nice name) that will allow PPC apps to run under the Intel.

As for the bottleneck issue, they may not be planning on using Pentium 4 processors. Intel could be developing a modified version for the Mac to use.

It wasn&#039;t clear if this transition meant that you could run OS X on any old Pentium based computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are going to release some emulation software called &#8220;Rosetta&#8221; (nice name) that will allow PPC apps to run under the Intel.</p>
<p>As for the bottleneck issue, they may not be planning on using Pentium 4 processors. Intel could be developing a modified version for the Mac to use.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t clear if this transition meant that you could run OS X on any old Pentium based computer.</p>
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		<title>By: cameron (desk003)</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16725</link>
		<dc:creator>cameron (desk003)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isnt one of the selling points for the PPC that it doesnt bottleneck the data exiting the processor, where the p4 does, ie: 

ppc: &#124; data v &#124;
p4:  \ data v /

(&#124; &#124; vs. \/)??

At least that&#039;s how I understood it. That&#039;s how they had the image showing on the powerbook or ibook page a few years ago. Not anymore though.

Anyway, I&#039;m mad at them for switching. Does this mean PPC (G4s and G5s) wont run the new OS&#039;s or Apps, or if they do, they&#039;ll have to do some sort of emulation and make it slower, or, make the developers make two versions and then you&#039;d see that the devs would only make the version that they had. Don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isnt one of the selling points for the PPC that it doesnt bottleneck the data exiting the processor, where the p4 does, ie: </p>
<p>ppc: | data v |<br />
p4:  \ data v /</p>
<p>(| | vs. \/)??</p>
<p>At least that&#8217;s how I understood it. That&#8217;s how they had the image showing on the powerbook or ibook page a few years ago. Not anymore though.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m mad at them for switching. Does this mean PPC (G4s and G5s) wont run the new OS&#8217;s or Apps, or if they do, they&#8217;ll have to do some sort of emulation and make it slower, or, make the developers make two versions and then you&#8217;d see that the devs would only make the version that they had. Don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: coolkamio</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16724</link>
		<dc:creator>coolkamio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction:
It&#039;s a 3,6Ghz P4 not 3,2 :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction:<br />
It&#8217;s a 3,6Ghz P4 not 3,2 :P</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Flint</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16723</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Flint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It actually makes a little sense to me. IBM has failed to deliver a 3GHz PowerPC processor. Also, the Intel processors run cooler than the PowerPCs,which is one reason why you haven&#039;t seen a G5 Powerbook yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It actually makes a little sense to me. IBM has failed to deliver a 3GHz PowerPC processor. Also, the Intel processors run cooler than the PowerPCs,which is one reason why you haven&#8217;t seen a G5 Powerbook yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Firefly D</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16722</link>
		<dc:creator>Firefly D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one who just switched from Microsoft, I feel  a little let down. It&#039;s like finding out my new girlfriend is a crossdresser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one who just switched from Microsoft, I feel  a little let down. It&#8217;s like finding out my new girlfriend is a crossdresser.</p>
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		<title>By: cliche</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16721</link>
		<dc:creator>cliche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smart move by Apple in many ways, but I just can&#039;t picture a powerbook with the &#039;Intel Inside&#039; sticker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smart move by Apple in many ways, but I just can&#8217;t picture a powerbook with the &#8216;Intel Inside&#8217; sticker.</p>
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		<title>By: MacGeek</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16720</link>
		<dc:creator>MacGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MacRumors has a live page that automatically refreshes every minute.  

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.macrumorslive.com/web/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MacRumors WWDC Coverage&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MacRumors has a live page that automatically refreshes every minute.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.macrumorslive.com/web/" rel="nofollow">MacRumors WWDC Coverage</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/steve_jobs_wwdc_keynote/comment-page-1/#comment-16719</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this site to be the best:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://live.macobserver.com/article/2005/06/wwdc2005_keynote.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Macobserver&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this site to be the best:</p>
<p><a href="http://live.macobserver.com/article/2005/06/wwdc2005_keynote.shtml" rel="nofollow">Macobserver</a></p>
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