Comments on: IE7 Beta 2 Released to the Public – Preview

By: RevJack

RevJack — Mon, 08 May 2006 23:58:34 +0000

Some people need to watch their language. Points can be made quite effectively without resorting to explitives. Resrting to explitives only shows one’s inability to communicate effectively with others intelligently.

By: john_d

john_d — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:55:47 +0000

Everything there is on IE6 and FF are all in opera.

and opera runs better… no excuses…

but what if IE7 even comes close to what they are promising, then IE7 will definetly rule.

im not saying it doesn’t already having a 83% market share makes it gold.

By: orpheus

orpheus — Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:36:53 +0000

wats all da nagging about!!!? 4get internet xplorer, 4get firefox………opera! is it”:|?>wats all da nagging about!!!? 4get internet xplorer, 4get firefox………opera! is it”:|?>

By: Chad

Chad — Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:54:03 +0000

I installed it on a corporate computer and I don’t have the tabs… I have everything else

Weird???

By: julian

julian — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:06:23 +0000

Don’t forget that IE7 is still in its early beta version. Dont forget how MS killed Netscape a few years ago. Dont forget that IE7 will come with all Windows OSs. Don’t forget that Firefox (and many of the plugins) is bugged like hell…

No good future for Firefox, huh?

By: Grammar

Grammar — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:57:18 +0000

“it’s” vs “its”.
It’s not that hard. ;)

By: espio

espio — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 08:52:32 +0000

I’m sorry, but IE7 is about the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen. Nothing will ever beat the simplistic beauty of littlefox for me. The buttons in IE7 are gigantic, ugly, and misplaced; all of which magnifies just how bad it looks.

By: marco

marco — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:09:54 +0000

Opera PWNZ all!

By: Harsh

Harsh — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:21:33 +0000

Why write a piece about IE’s looks when the biggest problem is security. You compared IE with FF in terms of looks etc. Why not security, adherence to standards etc.?
Personally, I think IE’s looks are shabby. The icons look too big and there seems to be this propensity to direct people as to their interaction with the UI. Every user, even non-power users, eventually pick up on shortcuts and use them more and more. So, instead of doing the thinking for them, by putting back/forward; refresh etc. buttons in places where someone thinks they would be user friendly, IE should just present everything cleanly and let users make choices.

By: Neocrazy

Neocrazy — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:03:48 +0000

With MS implementation of Sharepoint and its integration of Office and IE7, I would like to know whether some of you see the fuctionality of IE. I agree that they are droping the ball on some of the CSS standards but from a visual and a OS integration point of view I actually pefer IE.

I have to agree with LOL. Most of the things IE7 as integrated by default you have to download a bunch of extensions. And in order to dowload webages faster in FF I had to hack the browser. I shouldn’t need to do that. To say the least in regards to the RSS feed, I think MS is seeing a market for some of these features and is meeting User demands. Now I am not saying FF can’t do this but from a corporate technical point of view, I see alot of managers who could use the RSS feaure and to have to install it for them and make sure it works properly with our images is a waste of time and if MS does the work for us then why should I complain.

The only people in our organization that I have heard complaint about IE7 are the Linux users. I don’t want to start that debate but leave your opinions of Bill Gates Corporate practices at the door and give the software its fair chance. And like it is said in earlier threads, the software is still Beta. The only way programmers for it will find out what people do or do not like about it are by you talking to them. Not by flaming them because FF is open source or you don’t want to change you browser preferences because it is a Microsoft product.

Man am I ever gonna get flamed for this :)

Cheers.

By: eric

eric — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:32:04 +0000

How do i get thumbnails in firfox

By: mikaelhc

mikaelhc — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:25:21 +0000

To #1 – Evilcat

If IE scales your webpages make sure you DPI is set to standard:

Open up ‘Display properties/Settings/Advanced’ and make sure ‘General/Display/DPI settings’ is set to ‘Normal Size (96DPI)’. Otherwise the IE browser will scale all graphics/font and text (which it isn’t very good at…). This happens on IE6, I haven’t testet it on IE7.

Some Dell Laptops ships with a higher DPI setting which horribly affects Internet Explorer browsing (Firefox ignores the DPI setting).

By: Rob

Rob — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:01:10 +0000

While many will look at IE7s pretty, blinking lights, the truth is IE is incapable of running most modern, standard techniques capable of being used on the web. It has poor support of the CSS styling standard. It has poor support of the DOM. It can’t run XHTML. And much, much more. All of which were available in 1998 and all other browsers run these just fine.

By: darkmane

darkmane — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:58:56 +0000

As far as RSS support: IE7 sucks, about 1/2 the time it renders the RSS as raw XML because it couldn’t figure out that it was an RSS feed. In addition, there is no way to force it to treat a URL as an RSS feed.

Plus, I like menu bars, I like where the buttons are and I hate learning new UIs. The boys in Redmond were smokin’ crack when they designed this one.

And IE6 and 7 leak worse than firefox, I’m killing the process every 2 or three days to get some performance back, since ie never exits to get you that precious performance people like so much.

By: Pallab

Pallab — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:21:21 +0000

Lol, Fx is no match for ie’s functionality and Fx is no match for Opera’s Functionality.

By: Chaz

Chaz — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 05:45:14 +0000

I’ve been on Firefox for a while, and I think for a Beta, IE7 looks pretty competitive. The tabbing “feels” a little niceer than Firefox, and I like the thumbnailed windows. Layoout is not great yet (favourites, history etc has been rightly criticised, but the IE7 blogs suggest they are aware of this. Frankly, there isn’t going to be ahuge difference now that IE& has gone Tabs, and I doubt I’ll go the hassle of downloading and installing Firefox on new boxes. Some people commenting here are jerking their knees very enthusiastically against Microsoft, but once IE7 is as pleasant ot use as Firefox (let’s face it, its only a browser), the war is going to be pretty much over.

By: rico

rico — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:36:22 +0000

i’m not sure how IE7 qualifies as “pretty”, but that’s the least of my worries. standards support has been improved since IE6, but it’s really too little too late. from what i’ve heard, things like pseudo-elements and portions of linked style-sheets aren’t yet supported, not to mention there’s no SVG since MS will try to kill it with that Sparkle garbage. i’ve also seen lots of reports stating that it’s not yet usable as a primary browser. wtf? when safari was still in beta, the developer versions off of limewire were damn near production grade, and MS has the nerve to inflict a browser that’s “not suitable for daily use” on xp users?

By: jazzmanic

jazzmanic — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:35:16 +0000

If all microsoft had to was make the best web-browser around i dont think that firefox be in the running at all. for them it is only an addition to the Os…

By: Bob

Bob — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 02:05:01 +0000

MS announced the thumbnails feature a year ago. The Ffox plugin copied from IE, not vice versa.

Of course, thumbnailed windows have been around for ages, for example thumbnails of virtual desktops on old Apollo workstations.

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:17:33 +0000

AOL Explorer is way better than IE7….and better than Firefox without any extensions. While Firefox is way cool with all of its extensions, I must admit you have to work to find good extensions

By: Griffith

Griffith — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:49:48 +0000

@Michael – I’m using Windows XP Pro with Royale Glass theme. Unfortunately I have no link to it since there are hundreds of versions of Royale. Try a search on Deviantart.

By: robotlol

robotlol — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:24:50 +0000

Wow, I’ve never seen an article be more devoid of content. Besides saying how IE7 is excellent even in this beta release, he says that it’s blown away by FF simply because of the extension functionality. Well, too bad 99% of the users of FF itself have never written one and are just at the mercy of a different set of programmers to make the browser do something they want…

Also, why are there still severe memory leaks in FF? All I ever hear is that it is fixed/being fixed/will be fixed. Over 2 years later and we’re all still waiting. How complicated can it fucking be to have proper garbage management?
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err, that was absolute rubbish. it didn’t talk about anything other then how good the beta is and then make some vague comment about firefox being superior because of extensions .. are you ff fanboys that desperate/threatened that you’ll digg an article like this ?

By: Eric

Eric — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:10:18 +0000

there both peices of shit go and get a browser that has provided this all for the last 5 years. Safari is the only thing to browse the internet with

By: LOL

LOL — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:56:38 +0000

lol:

“Thinking about the new users Microsoft also added a button that imitates one of Firefox’s plugins by showing a page with thumbnails of all the open tabs with a vertical scroll-bar on the right”

so microsoft includes a feature BY DEFAULT and its a NEGATIVE for some reason because FF has a PLUGIN that does the same thing.

to do anything “different” in FF you have to add all sorts of bloat.. the thing mem leaks like crazy anyway.

oh and #1 use for a browser: is BROWSING THE INTERNET which FF is STILL slower at.

By: tofuComputer

tofuComputer — Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:56:25 +0000

LOL! Ditto that motion!
:)
tofuComputer

By: Aidan

Aidan — Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:52:03 +0000

What a load of Crap , IE is getting worse and worse, Its about as pretty as my Butt!

Why bother, bill you have got to try firefox!

By: michael

michael — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:45:53 +0000

What version of windows are you running? im only asking because the maximize and minimize buttons are arrows? just curiouse??

By: evilkat

evilkat — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:50:59 +0000

To stray from your expectations? :)

By: tofuComputer

tofuComputer — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 06:15:14 +0000

I’m very confident that Microsoft won’t stray from our expectations: they’ll ignore standards and anything else they choose, as they’ve done for years now.
But why do they continue to do this????
t.c.

By: evilkat

evilkat — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:24:20 +0000

They need to get their button layout right. For instance why are the back/fwd (most frequently used) buttons totally seperated from the refresh, X and tools buttons? It would have been more productive to have them all in a row like FF and Apple. Not very helpful. Thanks god it’s still a beta. I have no problem with them screwing this up. Just pray and hope they get the FINAL version out right.

By: Sunny

Sunny — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 01:15:43 +0000

Here is Rentzsch's.

By: Griffith

Griffith — Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:13:07 +0000

Everyone has their opinion :)

By: sunny

sunny — Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:31:44 +0000

I am sorry if you think that looks pretty, you have no taste.

By: evilkat

evilkat — Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:06:16 +0000

But it’s favorites managment system is horrible. It’s difficult to navigate into directories and then back up a level. I like the favorites center concept, but it needs work.

Also for some reason IE7’s intelligent scaling or whatever tends to scale EVERYTHING on my machine and make fonts and images look blurry. They’ve got their work cut out for them.