Comments on: FG-DIGG Issue on TWiT http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/ Nerds are for Dorks Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:14:48 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Wallace http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27175 Wallace Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:46:20 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27175 Hi everybody! Wanna see my cool pages? <a></a> [url=][/url] Hi everybody! Wanna see my cool pages?
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]]> By: darkmoon http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27174 darkmoon Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:42:05 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27174 Amusing. Finally listened to the TWiT. They have moderators (so thereby hierarchy). And they think that ForeverGeek is "1" user instead of multiple contributors. How lame. It sounds like Kevin Rose might not be involved (perhaps) BUT it also confirms against that users still don't have full control. Very amusing. He claims "no editors" but there are "moderators". Uhh.. yeah. Amusing. Finally listened to the TWiT. They have moderators (so thereby hierarchy). And they think that ForeverGeek is “1″ user instead of multiple contributors. How lame.

It sounds like Kevin Rose might not be involved (perhaps) BUT it also confirms against that users still don’t have full control.

Very amusing. He claims “no editors” but there are “moderators”. Uhh.. yeah.

]]> By: Matt Hoffman http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27173 Matt Hoffman Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:20:24 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27173 Who cares about Digg. Lets quit putting up stuff on Digg. Who cares about Digg. Lets quit putting up stuff on Digg.

]]> By: Mike http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27172 Mike Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:12:10 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27172 Listening to TWiT 51 now, Of course Kevin will sound sincere he has to keep the VC sources happy. Why waste time on TWiT Use his Beer drinking podcast to Diggnation to defend his million dollar baby. Too many other sources and digg clones to get stories now. Stopped using Digg after the venture capital story broke and the lame Diggnation vidcast. Listening to TWiT 51 now, Of course Kevin will sound sincere he has to keep the VC sources happy.

Why waste time on TWiT Use his Beer drinking podcast to Diggnation to defend his million dollar baby.

Too many other sources and digg clones to get stories now. Stopped using Digg after the venture capital story broke and the lame Diggnation vidcast.

]]> By: Michael Pate http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27171 Michael Pate Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:07:29 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27171 If Digg is guilty of anything, it is in not developing a way to combat incredibly sophisticated spammers who spend months posting credible content in order to be able to profit from it longterm (which is a problem we have barely seen thus far). Whoever was behind this must be besides themself in that they had managed to place three of these identities on Kevin's friend list. And because they got a little sloppy/lazy, they lost those three and 13 more. I would presume that Kevin will add an algorithm looking for order of Digging patterns after this but I doubt anyone will make the same mistake again. If Digg is guilty of anything, it is in not developing a way to combat incredibly sophisticated spammers who spend months posting credible content in order to be able to profit from it longterm (which is a problem we have barely seen thus far). Whoever was behind this must be besides themself in that they had managed to place three of these identities on Kevin’s friend list. And because they got a little sloppy/lazy, they lost those three and 13 more. I would presume that Kevin will add an algorithm looking for order of Digging patterns after this but I doubt anyone will make the same mistake again.

]]> By: Serg http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27170 Serg Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:21:33 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27170 A one sided podcast is exactly that - one sided. It is easy to say something without having the opposing party there to give a rebuttal :) A one sided podcast is exactly that – one sided. It is easy to say something without having the opposing party there to give a rebuttal :)

]]> By: darkmoon http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27169 darkmoon Tue, 25 Apr 2006 06:24:17 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27169 Haven't had time to listen to TWiT. I'll take a listen tomorrow. I will however say this. I'm kind of disappointed that digg's algorithm actually includes "time of day". Considering news doesn't stop and there are those of us that are night owls, it's rather stupid that time of day makes a difference. As far as their spammer detection algorithms, obviously they have some issues. The fact that he (Kevin) was digging spammer articles? Come on. How much you want to be there's also a whitelist somewhere. Can you imagine the contraversy if slashdot got banned from digg? FG would be piddly compared to that - no offense. All in all, I'll probably still use Digg based on the fact that it still finds some interesting reads every so often (lately it's been crap) but there is definitely some serious issues that need to be solved and were highlighted by FG's actions. I'm glad to be a reader of FG. Haven’t had time to listen to TWiT. I’ll take a listen tomorrow. I will however say this. I’m kind of disappointed that digg’s algorithm actually includes “time of day”. Considering news doesn’t stop and there are those of us that are night owls, it’s rather stupid that time of day makes a difference.

As far as their spammer detection algorithms, obviously they have some issues. The fact that he (Kevin) was digging spammer articles? Come on.

How much you want to be there’s also a whitelist somewhere. Can you imagine the contraversy if slashdot got banned from digg? FG would be piddly compared to that – no offense.

All in all, I’ll probably still use Digg based on the fact that it still finds some interesting reads every so often (lately it’s been crap) but there is definitely some serious issues that need to be solved and were highlighted by FG’s actions. I’m glad to be a reader of FG.

]]> By: jangelo http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27168 jangelo Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:57:45 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27168 Thanks for the comments. I, too, did not doubt Kevin's sincerity while I was listening to the episode. Of course, I had assumed that TWiT would likely have a bias towards Kevin's case, because of his affiliation with TWiT. I actually enjoyed listening to how DIGG actually does it (promote stories to frontpage) which I used to think was only based on raw DIGGs. And yes, I do use DIGG. I'm a great fan of DIGG. I listen to DIGGnation every week. Things like Macgyver's earlier analyses, while seeming one-sided, jolted the whole "collaborative" web thing into perspective--makes us think and rethink our missions as conduits for information exchange. At any rate, Kevin Rose himself admitted that the system has its quirks, and they're doing what they can to fix it. And the scenario I pointed out in the last paragraph, don't you think that's very much possible? If I want to have FG banned, then I'd spam DIGG to hell with links to FG. Now that would cause headaches to site owners and DIGG admins alike. Thanks for the comments. I, too, did not doubt Kevin’s sincerity while I was listening to the episode. Of course, I had assumed that TWiT would likely have a bias towards Kevin’s case, because of his affiliation with TWiT.

I actually enjoyed listening to how DIGG actually does it (promote stories to frontpage) which I used to think was only based on raw DIGGs.

And yes, I do use DIGG. I’m a great fan of DIGG. I listen to DIGGnation every week. Things like Macgyver’s earlier analyses, while seeming one-sided, jolted the whole “collaborative” web thing into perspective–makes us think and rethink our missions as conduits for information exchange.

At any rate, Kevin Rose himself admitted that the system has its quirks, and they’re doing what they can to fix it.

And the scenario I pointed out in the last paragraph, don’t you think that’s very much possible? If I want to have FG banned, then I’d spam DIGG to hell with links to FG. Now that would cause headaches to site owners and DIGG admins alike.

]]> By: jangelo http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27167 jangelo Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:46:09 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27167 Link fixed. Please check here: http://forevergeek.com/news/fgdigg_issue_on_twit.php Link fixed. Please check here:

http://forevergeek.com/news/fgdigg_issue_on_twit.php

]]> By: Daniel Callaback http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27166 Daniel Callaback Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:40:12 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27166 Sounds like Mr. Racoma should've asked more questions before jumping to conclusions. Kevin sounds sincere. In the meantime, Digg's reputation is injured, all because someone can make claims and assumptions on the Internet with only one-sided research. (I actually never use digg.com) Sounds like Mr. Racoma should’ve asked more questions before jumping to conclusions. Kevin sounds sincere. In the meantime, Digg’s reputation is injured, all because someone can make claims and assumptions on the Internet with only one-sided research.

(I actually never use digg.com)

]]> By: Paul http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27165 Paul Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:27:39 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27165 No, I don't think so. Kevin sounded pretty credible in the TWiT podcast. I suspect this whole thing was one assumption piling up onto another and the end result was a collision between conspiracy theories and anti-spam initiatives. It is something worth watching though. No, I don’t think so. Kevin sounded pretty credible in the TWiT podcast. I suspect this whole thing was one assumption piling up onto another and the end result was a collision between conspiracy theories and anti-spam initiatives.

It is something worth watching though.

]]> By: jangelo http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27164 jangelo Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:26:37 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27164 Update: I fixed the broken formatting. Sorry about that! Update: I fixed the broken formatting. Sorry about that!

]]> By: xen ix http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/04/fg_digg_issue_on_twit/comment-page-1/#comment-27163 xen ix Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:15:57 +0000 http://forevergeek.com/?p=2932#comment-27163 Been following this issue from the start and every articles has been very interesting to read. I think this might be their downfall. Been following this issue from the start and every articles has been very interesting to read. I think this might be their downfall.

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