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	<title>Comments on: Mac vs. Windows &#8211; It&#039;s All About The &quot;Maximize&quot; Button</title>
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		<title>By: Nepali_Manche</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-48662</link>
		<dc:creator>Nepali_Manche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I switch between mac, windows and linux(KDE) every now and then. Right now I&#039;m in my mbp and I dont see a point in not being able to maximize this browser window, as the browser already have the multi-tab functionality. 

Lion kinda gives the fullscreen mode, but I lose the dock and the menu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I switch between mac, windows and linux(KDE) every now and then. Right now I&#8217;m in my mbp and I dont see a point in not being able to maximize this browser window, as the browser already have the multi-tab functionality. </p>
<p>Lion kinda gives the fullscreen mode, but I lose the dock and the menu.</p>
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		<title>By: maxforever</title>
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		<dc:creator>maxforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 23:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have bought at least 7 iMacs in the last 4 years including Lion Server, but I don&#039;t understand why I cannot maximise a screen using a simple double-click on the application&#039;s title bar. It&#039;s such an intuitive action following on from a double-click to open an application! Clearly the programmers at Apple are deliberately and demonstratively excluding the possibility that a GUI can be utilised intuitively in more ways than one or the creative powerhouse has simply exhausted its common-sense imagination!

I like to see as much data and features and functions as possible on my spreadsheets (with statistic plug-ins that aren&#039;t available on the Mac) or programming interfaces or databases or graphic design screens, because I do very detailed work and I use up all the space I can get on the screen. Using 1 window maximised at a time I often have 20-35 windows open at any given moment for my forensic research work or programming of complex functions, and I work on 2 or 3 computers concurrently from 1 desktop to manage demanding tasks and to avoid 1 machine being inaccessible while the other is doing a simulation or graphic rendering. I switch between those simply by using ALT+TAB. Minimising all windows is fast with WIN+M. File Explorer is easy with WIN+E. Saving a file CTRL+S. etc. There is also the simple 1 right-click option to align 2 or more windows vertically or horizontally in equal parts on the screen!

What I fund puzzling on the Mac is the separation of the Menu bar from the application window; why fragmenting the user interface instead of consolidating its functions? 

I also don&#039;t understand why the dock cannot be moved to the top of the screen like I can do with the Task bar in Windows. I find that  for space reasons the bottom of the screen should not be used up by the dock (and it&#039;s the 3rd feature panel aside from the Menu bar and the application bar), and looking down at it so many times encourages the head and neck to bend down instead of staying straight! 

And what&#039;s the story with Mac users always referring to using the keyboard and the mouse together (using both hands) for doing quick steps when in Windows shortcuts can be accessed by standard in every app with 1 hand?! 

Or why do the Apple displays have to be so shiny as to reflect one&#039;s white shirt or background lights when truly it&#039;s much healthier and more relaxing for the eyes to use the computer with a non-reflective screen? I for one have 2 precious eyes only that I&#039;d like to keep safe, it&#039;s just common sense!

Finally, people say the Mac is faster but I have yet to see a Mac in action which is nano-seconds faster than Windows in rendering certain basic recurring GUI functions (open app, max window, show right click options).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have bought at least 7 iMacs in the last 4 years including Lion Server, but I don&#8217;t understand why I cannot maximise a screen using a simple double-click on the application&#8217;s title bar. It&#8217;s such an intuitive action following on from a double-click to open an application! Clearly the programmers at Apple are deliberately and demonstratively excluding the possibility that a GUI can be utilised intuitively in more ways than one or the creative powerhouse has simply exhausted its common-sense imagination!</p>
<p>I like to see as much data and features and functions as possible on my spreadsheets (with statistic plug-ins that aren&#8217;t available on the Mac) or programming interfaces or databases or graphic design screens, because I do very detailed work and I use up all the space I can get on the screen. Using 1 window maximised at a time I often have 20-35 windows open at any given moment for my forensic research work or programming of complex functions, and I work on 2 or 3 computers concurrently from 1 desktop to manage demanding tasks and to avoid 1 machine being inaccessible while the other is doing a simulation or graphic rendering. I switch between those simply by using ALT+TAB. Minimising all windows is fast with WIN+M. File Explorer is easy with WIN+E. Saving a file CTRL+S. etc. There is also the simple 1 right-click option to align 2 or more windows vertically or horizontally in equal parts on the screen!</p>
<p>What I fund puzzling on the Mac is the separation of the Menu bar from the application window; why fragmenting the user interface instead of consolidating its functions? </p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t understand why the dock cannot be moved to the top of the screen like I can do with the Task bar in Windows. I find that  for space reasons the bottom of the screen should not be used up by the dock (and it&#8217;s the 3rd feature panel aside from the Menu bar and the application bar), and looking down at it so many times encourages the head and neck to bend down instead of staying straight! </p>
<p>And what&#8217;s the story with Mac users always referring to using the keyboard and the mouse together (using both hands) for doing quick steps when in Windows shortcuts can be accessed by standard in every app with 1 hand?! </p>
<p>Or why do the Apple displays have to be so shiny as to reflect one&#8217;s white shirt or background lights when truly it&#8217;s much healthier and more relaxing for the eyes to use the computer with a non-reflective screen? I for one have 2 precious eyes only that I&#8217;d like to keep safe, it&#8217;s just common sense!</p>
<p>Finally, people say the Mac is faster but I have yet to see a Mac in action which is nano-seconds faster than Windows in rendering certain basic recurring GUI functions (open app, max window, show right click options).</p>
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		<title>By: I'm a PC</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-47276</link>
		<dc:creator>I'm a PC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Googled &quot;mac minimize all windows&quot; and found this website, as well as others that offer several different suggestions on how to minimize my Mac &quot;windows&quot; and none of them work. Seriously? I bust a** on my PC at home, and then I get on a Mac at work, and it&#039;s like someone tied my hands behind my back. I&#039;ve been using the Mac on and off for decades, and I still don&#039;t see any advantage to using it, whatsoever. Several years ago, Apple put out an ad claiming that the Mac was faster than the PC, but the example they used had the PC intentionally running a ton of stuff, while the Mac was running far less applications. Shortly thereafter, the Macs starting utilizing the Intel processor, because the previous Mac processor was slower than the Intel. That&#039;s just too funny. To me, the Mac seems like a pretty, shiny Volkswagen Beetle with the pretty little flower on the dashboard and you have to sit in the back seat while Steve Jobs drives for you, while the PC is more like a muddy, scratched up Ford F-150, and not only do you get to drive it yourself, but you also get to work on the engine frequently and you are given the tools to do it with. I personally drive a SAAB, with a giant pile of rocks and dirt on the dashboard, and I like it there. I can maximize or minimize it any time I want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Googled &#8220;mac minimize all windows&#8221; and found this website, as well as others that offer several different suggestions on how to minimize my Mac &#8220;windows&#8221; and none of them work. Seriously? I bust a** on my PC at home, and then I get on a Mac at work, and it&#8217;s like someone tied my hands behind my back. I&#8217;ve been using the Mac on and off for decades, and I still don&#8217;t see any advantage to using it, whatsoever. Several years ago, Apple put out an ad claiming that the Mac was faster than the PC, but the example they used had the PC intentionally running a ton of stuff, while the Mac was running far less applications. Shortly thereafter, the Macs starting utilizing the Intel processor, because the previous Mac processor was slower than the Intel. That&#8217;s just too funny. To me, the Mac seems like a pretty, shiny Volkswagen Beetle with the pretty little flower on the dashboard and you have to sit in the back seat while Steve Jobs drives for you, while the PC is more like a muddy, scratched up Ford F-150, and not only do you get to drive it yourself, but you also get to work on the engine frequently and you are given the tools to do it with. I personally drive a SAAB, with a giant pile of rocks and dirt on the dashboard, and I like it there. I can maximize or minimize it any time I want.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-44329</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you tile / resize open windows on a new Mac that has a wireless keyboard? My F9/F10 functions don&#039;t seem to respond and it&#039;s driving me nuts trying to figure this out!  Thanks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you tile / resize open windows on a new Mac that has a wireless keyboard? My F9/F10 functions don&#8217;t seem to respond and it&#8217;s driving me nuts trying to figure this out!  Thanks :)</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-36484</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now here is something I honestly don&#039;t understand. How having non-fullscreen windows is going to help me multitask? My primary experience is with Windows and on my work PC I multitask heavily - I normally have 30-40 windows open at the same time (three columns of tasks on the taskbar that I&#039;m putting on the side of the screen to make use of the &quot;widescreen&quot; format that got so fashionable these days). And that&#039;s not counting the Firefox tabs. Do people saying that &quot;right-sizing&quot; instead of maximizing helps multitasking seriously mean that all these windows/documents will somehow be visible at the same time to help me multitask? I can assume that the experience could be different on a 30&quot; screen but on my 13&quot; MacBook even a truly maximized window seems a bit too small for my taste...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now here is something I honestly don&#8217;t understand. How having non-fullscreen windows is going to help me multitask? My primary experience is with Windows and on my work PC I multitask heavily &#8211; I normally have 30-40 windows open at the same time (three columns of tasks on the taskbar that I&#8217;m putting on the side of the screen to make use of the &#8220;widescreen&#8221; format that got so fashionable these days). And that&#8217;s not counting the Firefox tabs. Do people saying that &#8220;right-sizing&#8221; instead of maximizing helps multitasking seriously mean that all these windows/documents will somehow be visible at the same time to help me multitask? I can assume that the experience could be different on a 30&#8243; screen but on my 13&#8243; MacBook even a truly maximized window seems a bit too small for my taste&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John S</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-9016</link>
		<dc:creator>John S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this and thought. Yes this is a big difference between Mac and PC&#039;s. You know I have seen plenty of Windows users not even know what Maximum button is. In fact many just drag their windows bigger. I would bet their are plenty of Mac users coming from Windows who ask themselves where is the full screen button?
Its all in what you get used too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this and thought. Yes this is a big difference between Mac and PC&#8217;s. You know I have seen plenty of Windows users not even know what Maximum button is. In fact many just drag their windows bigger. I would bet their are plenty of Mac users coming from Windows who ask themselves where is the full screen button?<br />
Its all in what you get used too.</p>
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		<title>By: Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had my iMac for three weeks now, and one of the features I like best about it is that I can run my copy of Windows XP in it, full-screen, on a virtual machine (although with a toy keyboard lacking many useful keys). Mac OS X is probably a great operating system, and all that, but its interface is more annoying than having a small bird pecking on your testicles for longer than a couple of hours.

Many application windows have toolbars on their top sides, because that is intuitive and makes sense, yet each window&#039;s menu is inconveniently placed on the top part of the screen, and only the active window&#039;s menu can be seen at any time. Maximizing a window -for whatever strange reason the user might want to do it- is quite an adventure (in iTunes, the button with a plus sign on it actually makes the window much smaller), and having the OS tile two or more windows automatically is just not an option; one has to do it manually, with the added frustration that only the lower right corner of each window allows resizing, which involves dragging the whole window to fit the top-left corner, and then dragging again the bottom-right corner to actually resize it. The &quot;bring to front&quot; option in some applications&#039; menu is often silly, since in order to access the menu of the application you might want to bring to the front, you need to bring it to the front beforehand; otherwise that menu won&#039;t be visible (however, I must admit I haven&#039;t yet used enough applications to find that option useful). Alert windows with more than one button seem to require usage of the mouse; moving the focus from one button with the arrow keys is not possible, nor are there intuitive keyboard shortcuts for each option displayed by the alert window (try copying a file to a folder that already contains a file with the same name, and completing the operation without using the mouse). Closing an application does not actually close the application; you need to find it on the dock, or via cmd-tab, and then close it from a menu. You can&#039;t modify the columns shown on a search result window because they&#039;re all disabled on the viewing options window. Browsing the local network to find other computers hooked to it is a nightmare. The power button is conveniently hidden in the back of the screen, along with the USB ports and the headphone socket. The SD-card slot is dangerously located very close to the DVD slot, and both somewhat hidden on the side of the screen (I&#039;ve already had to use a pin to extract a card placed by mistake into the DVD slot) ...

I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a long etcetera, but as I said, I&#039;ve only had my pretty (frustrating) computer for three weeks; I&#039;m sure it still has plenty of nuisances waiting for me to discover them. To be fair, though, I&#039;m also sure I&#039;ll eventually learn how to use the freaking machine :D

Sorry about the rant, I only really popped in to say hello :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had my iMac for three weeks now, and one of the features I like best about it is that I can run my copy of Windows XP in it, full-screen, on a virtual machine (although with a toy keyboard lacking many useful keys). Mac OS X is probably a great operating system, and all that, but its interface is more annoying than having a small bird pecking on your testicles for longer than a couple of hours.</p>
<p>Many application windows have toolbars on their top sides, because that is intuitive and makes sense, yet each window&#8217;s menu is inconveniently placed on the top part of the screen, and only the active window&#8217;s menu can be seen at any time. Maximizing a window -for whatever strange reason the user might want to do it- is quite an adventure (in iTunes, the button with a plus sign on it actually makes the window much smaller), and having the OS tile two or more windows automatically is just not an option; one has to do it manually, with the added frustration that only the lower right corner of each window allows resizing, which involves dragging the whole window to fit the top-left corner, and then dragging again the bottom-right corner to actually resize it. The &#8220;bring to front&#8221; option in some applications&#8217; menu is often silly, since in order to access the menu of the application you might want to bring to the front, you need to bring it to the front beforehand; otherwise that menu won&#8217;t be visible (however, I must admit I haven&#8217;t yet used enough applications to find that option useful). Alert windows with more than one button seem to require usage of the mouse; moving the focus from one button with the arrow keys is not possible, nor are there intuitive keyboard shortcuts for each option displayed by the alert window (try copying a file to a folder that already contains a file with the same name, and completing the operation without using the mouse). Closing an application does not actually close the application; you need to find it on the dock, or via cmd-tab, and then close it from a menu. You can&#8217;t modify the columns shown on a search result window because they&#8217;re all disabled on the viewing options window. Browsing the local network to find other computers hooked to it is a nightmare. The power button is conveniently hidden in the back of the screen, along with the USB ports and the headphone socket. The SD-card slot is dangerously located very close to the DVD slot, and both somewhat hidden on the side of the screen (I&#8217;ve already had to use a pin to extract a card placed by mistake into the DVD slot) &#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a long etcetera, but as I said, I&#8217;ve only had my pretty (frustrating) computer for three weeks; I&#8217;m sure it still has plenty of nuisances waiting for me to discover them. To be fair, though, I&#8217;m also sure I&#8217;ll eventually learn how to use the freaking machine :D</p>
<p>Sorry about the rant, I only really popped in to say hello :)</p>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mac Sucks!!</description>
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		<title>By: comeonbaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>comeonbaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 06:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.convertavitoiphone.com/</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 09:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one related aspect is a &#039;snap to grid&#039; feature when aligning windows.

I tend to get annoyed with my mac when trying to maximise (like many people, I find multiple windows frustrating and tend to lose my focus). When maximising, two drag and drop operations are required - each one of them carefully, to line up the edge of the window with the edge of the screen.

A snap to grid feature would mean that it would be a much quicker operation (within the accuracy of the mouse) to line a window up with the screen edge - maybe making it less irritating to manually maximise.

KDE does this very well - it&#039;s also very easy to line two windows up next to one another side-by-side without maximising</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one related aspect is a &#8216;snap to grid&#8217; feature when aligning windows.</p>
<p>I tend to get annoyed with my mac when trying to maximise (like many people, I find multiple windows frustrating and tend to lose my focus). When maximising, two drag and drop operations are required &#8211; each one of them carefully, to line up the edge of the window with the edge of the screen.</p>
<p>A snap to grid feature would mean that it would be a much quicker operation (within the accuracy of the mouse) to line a window up with the screen edge &#8211; maybe making it less irritating to manually maximise.</p>
<p>KDE does this very well &#8211; it&#8217;s also very easy to line two windows up next to one another side-by-side without maximising</p>
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		<title>By: tek</title>
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		<dc:creator>tek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 14:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found a tool to maximize the windows with the + button, it&#039;s free to download right here: http://www.blazingtools.com/mac/RightZoom.zip . For activating, just open the app. If you want the deactivate the tool however, you have to open your terminal and type &quot;killall RightZoom&quot;, simple as that. I hope you all like the programm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found a tool to maximize the windows with the + button, it&#8217;s free to download right here: <a href="http://www.blazingtools.com/mac/RightZoom.zip" rel="nofollow">http://www.blazingtools.com/mac/RightZoom.zip</a> . For activating, just open the app. If you want the deactivate the tool however, you have to open your terminal and type &#8220;killall RightZoom&#8221;, simple as that. I hope you all like the programm.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No matter how large a resolution is I still  prefer having windows full screen, thus OSX feels inconvenient to me (it&#039;s too difficult to maximize windows). This could be a result of me always being a Windows user, but I think it has more to do with focusing on one window without seeing all the clutter behind it. I always have windows maximized, with only a few exceptions (calculator... that&#039;s about it...)

Windows 7 has significantly increased productivity and usability with the Aero Peak feature. It feels really natural and helps manage many fullscreen Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter how large a resolution is I still  prefer having windows full screen, thus OSX feels inconvenient to me (it&#8217;s too difficult to maximize windows). This could be a result of me always being a Windows user, but I think it has more to do with focusing on one window without seeing all the clutter behind it. I always have windows maximized, with only a few exceptions (calculator&#8230; that&#8217;s about it&#8230;)</p>
<p>Windows 7 has significantly increased productivity and usability with the Aero Peak feature. It feels really natural and helps manage many fullscreen Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: ihateyou</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihateyou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will not buy a mac until it gets the same maximize functionality as windows</description>
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		<title>By: Arjen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arjen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For people that have a very big screen, it won&#039;t be useful to have a maximized window.
For me and others that want to see an entire webpage on the pc, it can be (and in my case is) very useful en convenient!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For people that have a very big screen, it won&#8217;t be useful to have a maximized window.<br />
For me and others that want to see an entire webpage on the pc, it can be (and in my case is) very useful en convenient!</p>
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		<title>By: Finlay</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-9007</link>
		<dc:creator>Finlay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know where to complain about this if not here (where it&#039;s relevant, of course), but one thing that really annoys me about a lot of third-party applications for the mac these days, including firefox, is that the resize button maximises the window. It&#039;s very annoying – especially since my screen is now way too big for any website to ever need me to put it to that size. But I used Safari recently when Firefox broke, and I found it was saving thumbnails of every website I went to, and really *eating* hard drive space. Saying that, it&#039;s one of the few problems I actually have with Firefox.

But the worst part is that some apps do it that would *never, ever, ever* need the full screen (Firefox, yeah I can kinda see that it would be useful for it to occupy your whole screen in a limited number of circumstances, and also when I use my laptop). As a example, the Last.fm scrobbling app does it. Wtf? It only needs a very small window. I now only bother with this button on apple-created software – it&#039;s just annoying that I&#039;m not Apple&#039;s biggest fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where to complain about this if not here (where it&#8217;s relevant, of course), but one thing that really annoys me about a lot of third-party applications for the mac these days, including firefox, is that the resize button maximises the window. It&#8217;s very annoying – especially since my screen is now way too big for any website to ever need me to put it to that size. But I used Safari recently when Firefox broke, and I found it was saving thumbnails of every website I went to, and really *eating* hard drive space. Saying that, it&#8217;s one of the few problems I actually have with Firefox.</p>
<p>But the worst part is that some apps do it that would *never, ever, ever* need the full screen (Firefox, yeah I can kinda see that it would be useful for it to occupy your whole screen in a limited number of circumstances, and also when I use my laptop). As a example, the Last.fm scrobbling app does it. Wtf? It only needs a very small window. I now only bother with this button on apple-created software – it&#8217;s just annoying that I&#8217;m not Apple&#8217;s biggest fan.</p>
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		<title>By: YG</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-9006</link>
		<dc:creator>YG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the gesture to maximize a window should follow gesture to open an application. DOUBLE CLICK... which means EXAPAND.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the gesture to maximize a window should follow gesture to open an application. DOUBLE CLICK&#8230; which means EXAPAND.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-9005</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Scott Rose says is true, BUT...

I&#039;m a 3D artist, and I use a Wacom pen rather than a mouse. I also sometimes use remote access over logmein.com which can be sluggish and slow, depending on the connection.

The thing about using a Wacom pen is that it is great for carpal tunnel, but it is difficult to plant your pointer in a steady place.

Even when you can CMD or option-click to full size, sometimes I&#039;ll click on the title bar to raise the window and the window will move, and replacing it in the middle of the screen over a remote session is a laggy pain in the butt. A way to maximize and _lock_ the window in place would be very helpful for apps that should always stay full screen and in place.

At least a bit of a snap tolerance at the edges would be nice. I don&#039;t care about how to get the window to full screen, I just sometimes want it to stay there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Scott Rose says is true, BUT&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a 3D artist, and I use a Wacom pen rather than a mouse. I also sometimes use remote access over logmein.com which can be sluggish and slow, depending on the connection.</p>
<p>The thing about using a Wacom pen is that it is great for carpal tunnel, but it is difficult to plant your pointer in a steady place.</p>
<p>Even when you can CMD or option-click to full size, sometimes I&#8217;ll click on the title bar to raise the window and the window will move, and replacing it in the middle of the screen over a remote session is a laggy pain in the butt. A way to maximize and _lock_ the window in place would be very helpful for apps that should always stay full screen and in place.</p>
<p>At least a bit of a snap tolerance at the edges would be nice. I don&#8217;t care about how to get the window to full screen, I just sometimes want it to stay there.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-9004</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can maximize to a full screen in mac, just use the zoom command under the view pulldown, or the keystroke shortcut, then click the green plus sign to resize your window to fit the zoomed window.  If you don&#039;t like everything being magnified, you can go back under the view command and set it back to normal size, but the &#039;window&#039; will stay full screen.  Sounds complicated, but it&#039;s really easy, even for me as I&#039;ve only been using my new macbook for a few hours, and have come from decades of using a PC.  I have to say, it&#039;s a learning curve, but a satisfying breath of fresh air too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can maximize to a full screen in mac, just use the zoom command under the view pulldown, or the keystroke shortcut, then click the green plus sign to resize your window to fit the zoomed window.  If you don&#8217;t like everything being magnified, you can go back under the view command and set it back to normal size, but the &#8216;window&#8217; will stay full screen.  Sounds complicated, but it&#8217;s really easy, even for me as I&#8217;ve only been using my new macbook for a few hours, and have come from decades of using a PC.  I have to say, it&#8217;s a learning curve, but a satisfying breath of fresh air too!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-9003</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Stuee, I find the Max OS X UI very frustrating. I want to be able to maximise my windows instead of having to drag and resize every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Stuee, I find the Max OS X UI very frustrating. I want to be able to maximise my windows instead of having to drag and resize every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuee</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-9002</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MS Windows tip:  For those of you who don&#039;t know...

ALT+TAB switches between applications
CTRL+TAB switches between windows/documents within an application

Further to this, adding SHIFT to either key combo does the same in both cases, but reverses the direction - so you can go back and forth at will.

SHIFT also reverses the TAB function when navigating text entry areas in forms, or buttons on a website for example.

So now no Mac users can complain that there isn&#039;t an equivalent to the CMD+TAB combo.

Hope this helps :-)

(Incidentally, I use both Windows and Mac OS and find many things about the Mac UI extremely frustrating.  Maximise and menus, mostly.  If only the UI was as customisable as Windows, then I could choose the behaviour I prefer/require and get on with my bloody work!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MS Windows tip:  For those of you who don&#8217;t know&#8230;</p>
<p>ALT+TAB switches between applications<br />
CTRL+TAB switches between windows/documents within an application</p>
<p>Further to this, adding SHIFT to either key combo does the same in both cases, but reverses the direction &#8211; so you can go back and forth at will.</p>
<p>SHIFT also reverses the TAB function when navigating text entry areas in forms, or buttons on a website for example.</p>
<p>So now no Mac users can complain that there isn&#8217;t an equivalent to the CMD+TAB combo.</p>
<p>Hope this helps :-)</p>
<p>(Incidentally, I use both Windows and Mac OS and find many things about the Mac UI extremely frustrating.  Maximise and menus, mostly.  If only the UI was as customisable as Windows, then I could choose the behaviour I prefer/require and get on with my bloody work!)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-9001</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like most people would prefer a true full screen maximise. The silly thing with the way the mac works is that the size of the content constantly changes in some apps (mainly web browser) and resizing it to what the current page happens to require is just plain silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like most people would prefer a true full screen maximise. The silly thing with the way the mac works is that the size of the content constantly changes in some apps (mainly web browser) and resizing it to what the current page happens to require is just plain silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dbleader61</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-9000</link>
		<dc:creator>Dbleader61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott Rose - all this absolutely uninformed discussion completely negated by your post.  Just bought our macbook pro and were about to return it but now we won&#039;t.  Can&#039;t believe no one knew this or that apple doesn&#039;t feature it in their sales/advertising/manual.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Rose &#8211; all this absolutely uninformed discussion completely negated by your post.  Just bought our macbook pro and were about to return it but now we won&#8217;t.  Can&#8217;t believe no one knew this or that apple doesn&#8217;t feature it in their sales/advertising/manual&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Malih</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-8999</link>
		<dc:creator>Malih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not one single comment mentions RightZoom, http://lifehacker.com/5240827/rightzoom-makes-the-os-x-maximize-button-more-like-windows</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not one single comment mentions RightZoom, <a href="http://lifehacker.com/5240827/rightzoom-makes-the-os-x-maximize-button-more-like-windows" rel="nofollow">http://lifehacker.com/5240827/rightzoom-makes-the-os-x-maximize-button-more-like-windows</a></p>
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		<title>By: pinkturbokitty</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-8998</link>
		<dc:creator>pinkturbokitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to have most of my Windows maximised. It all depends on what I&#039;m doing. I keep my IM Windows the same size they are and then when I recieve a message I plop it on the screen where I can still see what I&#039;m doing, maybe sizing it down a bit to fit while I allow it to sit there, when that window doesnt need my attention anymore I click back over to what I was doing. and then when the window needs my attention again, it&#039;ll be plopped it that spot and I can still see what I was reading/doing so I dont get distracted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to have most of my Windows maximised. It all depends on what I&#8217;m doing. I keep my IM Windows the same size they are and then when I recieve a message I plop it on the screen where I can still see what I&#8217;m doing, maybe sizing it down a bit to fit while I allow it to sit there, when that window doesnt need my attention anymore I click back over to what I was doing. and then when the window needs my attention again, it&#8217;ll be plopped it that spot and I can still see what I was reading/doing so I dont get distracted.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/09/mac_vs_windows_its_all_about_the_maximize_button/#comment-8997</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the Mac, you can hold down the OPTION key while clicking on the green maximize button to maximize an individual window to full screen. Note that this doesn&#039;t work in all applications, but it works in MOST applications. It works in about 90% of the applications I&#039;ve tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Mac, you can hold down the OPTION key while clicking on the green maximize button to maximize an individual window to full screen. Note that this doesn&#8217;t work in all applications, but it works in MOST applications. It works in about 90% of the applications I&#8217;ve tried.</p>
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